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yachtmerchant
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help! information on palapa construction
Hello to all,
I am new to this forum and have a qusetion. Where can i get information on building a palapa style home. I have worn the net out
and only get a little info. Im certain that most Palaperos do not have web sites, but maybe someone here will point me in the right direction. Thanks
in advance! YM
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Bruce R Leech
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Welcome to Baja Nomad
talk to other people WHO have had them built for them. and decide if that is really what you want. there are many problems with them. one big problem
is they are a real fire hazard and you cant git insurance on them. also they don't last that long and require a lot of maintenance. there are some
architects that build theme also.
[Edited on 3-21-2005 by Bruce R Leech]
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yachtmerchant
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Thanks Bruce. Im also looking into straw bale construction, perhaps with a smaller palapa outdoor living space. All help is appretiated and thank you
for the welcome! YM
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Pompano
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yachtmerchant
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Point well taken! What are some other low cost building alternatives? Thanks! YM
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Bruce R Leech
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we have an expert on straw bail construction here in Mulege. Roy at plia Ecomundo Knows it all . I don't have his email or website But I will git it
for you.
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Bruce R Leech
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here is the Link for Roy
http://home.earthlink.net/~rcmathews/
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Natalie Ann
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A couple of interesting websites.... perhaps you could build your house of straw bale and put up a small palapa covered gazebo
http://www.tropicalshade.net/
http://www.escapeartist.com/OREQ6/Straw_Bale_House.html
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yachtmerchant
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Many thanks to all who replied! YM
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bajajudy
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One of the most important things to remember about straw bale houses is that you have to have a really good plumber....leaks are not good
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Skeet/Loreto
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Disagree!!!!!
Sir: I must point out that my 35 years of Experience living in Loreto Baja is not anywhere as described.
My wife and I built 'Rancho Sonrisa" on the Beach North of Loreto That roof consisting of 13,000 properly prepared oja.s went through some real good
storm, it is still there And I would strongly suggest that you go take a Look. It sets beween to american "Trophy Houses" that are Monstortsies.
My Palapa of 2,000 Sq Feet was built with 2 and 1/2 Feet into the Sand on the Beach, the Columns are 2 feet Thick. I used Durango Pine Beams setting
on top of the inside columns.
In addition I built a 1500 Sq Ft. Palapa without any Metal or nails tied with Rawhide{Similiar to the Mormon church in Utah. It is still in good
Shape.
I would strongly suggest that if you want to be different, use some Mexicano Craftman not have to worry about Architects who charge lots of money,
look into a Palapa.
There have been very few Fires that I know about in Loreto except for the fire at Trupiu south of Loreto in a Trailer Park where the buildongs where
touchingeach other.
Do not take my Word just go to Loreto and ask around.
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mexpert
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I'd highly recommend...
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
we have an expert on straw bail construction here in Mulege. Roy at plia Ecomundo Knows it all . I don't have his email or website But I will git it
for you. |
that you take a few deep breaths in Roy "the experts" structures before proceeding. PEE-U 
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Osprey
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Palapa house
Check out www.cobworks.com -- I just saw a house they are building with mud/straw (rammed earth) in the mountains near here.
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Bob and Susan
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remember the story....
...and he huffed and puffed and blew the house down
don't build junk.
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Pompano
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This is Posada...it too burned because of a fire in grass roofs and sides..started in a hot water heater. There was over 1.3 million in damage..late
70's..burned VERY fast with people scrambling to get out with their lives. The wind spread it from rooftop to rooftop over the distance between. I
lived above in my hilltop stonehome that had a thatched roof..I got a metal roof fast.
Anna's cafe at Santispac had a grass roof...it burned to the ground. A cafe in Mulege burned...grass roof. Jungle Jims burned...grass roof. And
on..and on..
I have friends who have had bale homes in the past ... and I have visited them myself. Uh...stay in one for awhile first. Find out the pros and cons.
My sense of smell is too good. The technology and theory is good ... they have been in use for over a hundred years in the Southwest.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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yankeeirishman
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Are you to be out in the boonies? Or the near a town? Is this to be a just a camp or your home? If you just doing a summer thing for a month or two?I
say go with your idea of palapa style camp. A home now?and I did my homework on this; straw bail construction is cheap and good, but you are limited
to anyone with experience on this (if you are to be a owner builder with contract help). I have settled for concrete block construction. There is
plenty of experienced helpers, and material. But now?.this house to be is in San Felipe, not the boonies.
| Quote: | Originally posted by yachtmerchant
Hello to all,
I am new to this forum and have a qusetion. Where can i get information on building a palapa style home. I have worn the net out
and only get a little info. Im certain that most Palaperos do not have web sites, but maybe someone here will point me in the right direction. Thanks
in advance! YM |
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comitan
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constr.
Yankeeirishman, something for you ,I'm sure you allready know, build overhangs so that the sun never hits the walls if you want to be comfortable. And
or save on electriic for A/C. That goes for anyone building and living in the Southern Baja in the Summertime. (Incl. S>F> its hot.)
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
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Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
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jrbaja
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Most all of the mountain ranchos
have had palapa roofs for hundreds of years. Thay are still using them down here and there are some really good builders. We in fact are combining
bamboo for the frame as well as oja roofing.
The reason they burn down so often is because there are drunken gringos under them that aren't smart enough to keep an eye on their barbecues!
Almost every time!!
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Mexray
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Foam boards with wire grids...
have been discussed here before...there's an outfit up in Mexicali, I believe that makes the Styrofoam like panels with heavy wire grids on each side.
You mechanically join them together with clamped steel rings - cut out your windows and doors - frame in the openings - then gunite each side to make
a high 'R' value structure.
Don't remember the name of the Company that makes them in Mexico. This system has worked real well in 3rd world countries as a cheap way to
manufacture housing. It's easier than cement blocks and goes up faster.
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\"It doesn\'t use numbers or moving hands It always just says now...\"
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bajalou
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Mexray
Think you are talking about Tri-D-Panels
There are several other styrofoam form/panels for construction. also Rastra - a post-comsumer scrap plastic beams with channels in them for rebar and
electric/plumbing. Put the walls of a good sized house up in a day or so. Then place the conduit etc and fill the whole thing with concrete. Stuco
the outside and plaster the inside and it's up. This is manufactured in Mexicali also.
There are contractors familiar with all of these building materials here in San Felipe.
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