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LancairDriver
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Baja Map Package
Amazon has a National Geographic Map package that looks interesting. Has anyone had any experience with these, and if so do they compare with DK’s
which are excellent? The reviews from users don’t look so hot
https://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?C=VNHG9WMHURC4&K=2RR3WF...
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advrider
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I have the set and next to the atlas that you can't get any more they are very good. DK'S maps have more detail on a smaller scale if that makes
sense? They are worth having for sure.
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bajaric
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Nat Geo maps are so so. Pretty good detail on watercourses, topography, and dirt tracks. Two major cons: One, no mileage logs between road
junctions. Two, instead of lat / long on the edge the map has weird NAD datum expressed as 34 80, 34 70 etc. Still have not figured that out. These
two things make the Nat Geo pretty much useless for navigation in the back country.
Also street map of Mexicali border crossing is out of date, but that is true for all current paper maps since they changed the crossing.
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BajaMama
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I keep the set with my other older maps (AAA). Can't have too many maps...
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David K
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The 2008 Nat Geo maps are BIG, large scale (2 maps Norte and Sur) with half the area on one side and the other half on the other side.
That said, they are not very useful for navigation for the reasons 'bajaric' mentioned. They don't have mileages on the roads and they lack a lot of
roads that are not on the map but should be. The first printing didn't even have El Mármol on it... it did get added, however!
Now, my maps (thanks for the compliments) do not have mileages either, but that is because they go with the road guide I made. I did add mileages to
one just to see how that worked out. I still may to the others... It was just a lot of work to do, and solely for the joy of doing it...
Here is a sample of the 2008 Nat Geo map:
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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | The 2008 Nat Geo maps are BIG, large scale (2 maps Norte and Sur) with half the area on one side and the other half on the other side.
That said, they are not very useful for navigation for the reasons 'bajaric' mentioned. They don't have mileages on the roads and they lack a lot of
roads that are not on the map but should be. The first printing didn't even have El Mármol on it... it did get added, however!
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i would think a supposed map guy would know better...  
DK, the nat geo maps are "small scale." The baja almanac maps are "large scale." 
Small scale maps of baja do not need to show locations like el marmol. Why would you fault a 1:450,000 map for omitting el marmol?
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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i find national gro maps the be printed on top quality paper, but are short on detail.
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David K
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Goat says this is larger scale than Nat Geo... ?
Near the same region... on the Baja Almanac:
I actually think the Nat Geo map looks like a larger scale?
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mtgoat666
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dk, you claim to be a map guy. but your grasp of terminology is tenuous. you need to go back to maps 101 and learn the difference between "small
scale" and "large scale."
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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Nice way to wake up, read about 2 children arguing about the definition of a Baja map.
Don't either one of you have anything better to do? If not, I feel sorry for your outlook on life.
Love, peace and tacos.
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HeyMulegeScott
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They are worth your $18.33. When you are down in Baja and talking to someone about spots to see it's nice to be able to pull out a paper map. They are
Pacifico proof in case you spill a little Cerveza on them.
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It is hard to beat the out-of-print AAA Baja maps. [Thanks again to John M for the 2003/2004 edition.]
Between it, the Baja Almanac, and David K's excellent maps I am confident that I can find my destinations.
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caj13
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I use them all the time, both for navigation and planning road trips.
The plasticized paper makes em very durable. as for navigation, I have no issues , they work great, but I'm talking about staying on the roads,
not rhino runnin adventures.
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LancairDriver
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Thanks for all the perspectives. I think I’ll splurge and order the Nat Geo set for 18 bucks. I also have the last AAA maps but they are getting a
bit worn. Look forward to DK’s maps coming out on a ruggedized material.
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AKgringo
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And 'embiggened' too!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Marc
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The best IMHO. Used for many years and now falling apart.
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John M
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Holy Cow Marc!
Put your flak vest on and by for the comments since you didn't clearly identify it as either small scale or large scale in spite of the fact it has
Scale 1:1,000,000 on its face.
John M
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | dk, you claim to be a map guy. but your grasp of terminology is tenuous. you need to go back to maps 101 and learn the difference between "small
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Where are your maps smart guy?
Where are your contributions to help travelers here?
Where are your photos to brighten the day for those seeking a dose of Baja?
You love to nag nag nag and take from us who do contribute here... but give nearly nothing of value.
The McMahan big wall maps are 1" = 14 miles, AAA maps are 1" = 11 miles, the Nat Geo maps are 1"= 7.1 miles and the Almanac is 1" = 5.5 miles.
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advrider
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I'll take DK'S input all day long compared to Goats..DK, your maps in large or small scale are a huge help to travelers in Baja, I use them often.
Your passion for Baja is obvious, not sure what Goats point in being here is?
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caj13
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajaric | Nat Geo maps are so so. Pretty good detail on watercourses, topography, and dirt tracks. Two major cons: One, no mileage logs between road
junctions. Two, instead of lat / long on the edge the map has weird NAD datum expressed as 34 80, 34 70 etc. Still have not figured that out. These
two things make the Nat Geo pretty much useless for navigation in the back country.
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Ric, are you referring to the blue numbers? those are UTMs. essentially a grid system covering the whole globe, uses meters, i use that all the
time to give me a quick estimate of distances, but then again I used UTMs alot when I was doing habitat mapping and modeling, so I'm familiar with
it. a lot simpler than converting degrees minutes and seconds into distances.
Another map I use for quick reference and travel is the Elimaps Baja California 2018 map. has all the gas stops camping places food tourist stops
etc. all on one page (N & S one side each). also has one of the mileage tables , also has all the dive places and shops as well. i find it
pretty handy, and easy to use
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