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[*] posted on 12-15-2019 at 09:55 AM
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Hi,

Has anyone recently driven the Los Barriles-Santa Teresa from Cardinal to San Juan de Los Planes? I'm thinking of driving it in early February.

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[*] posted on 12-15-2019 at 10:14 AM


JZ recently posted about a difficult route, and I think it is the one you are asking about; http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=76794&got...

Hopefully he will confirm, or correct me on this.




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[*] posted on 12-15-2019 at 11:22 AM


I do believe the road in question, is the one going along the coast to Los Planes / Bahia de Los Muertos.

We drove it in the opposite directions a couple weeks ago, not a problem for high clearance or 4x4 vehicles.



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[*] posted on 12-15-2019 at 12:01 PM


We did San Juan de Los Planes to Los Barriles twice this year. Once in July and once last month. The first 5-6 miles to get to the coast is pretty rough. Lots of rocks. Pretty narrow. The November run was harder. More rocks and ruts. We made it in my 3/4 ton, stock except for high-end King shocks. Took us about 1.5hr to go 5 miles. We had the bikes as well, they flew through there.

Once you hit the coast there are a couple miles that are a little bumpy, but much easier than the initial drive through the canyon. After that it is a very easy and very beautiful drive. Arguably a top 3 coastal drive in all of Baja.





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[*] posted on 12-15-2019 at 12:21 PM


Thanks JZ,

This exactly the road and the 5-6 miles I was concerned about. I'll skip it this time.

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[*] posted on 12-15-2019 at 01:00 PM
By the way....Welcome to the forum!


Quote: Originally posted by vespaio  
Thanks JZ,

This exactly the road and the 5-6 miles I was concerned about. I'll skip it this time.

Ray


I love that drive, and suggest you check back in January. I once reported that same stretch as passable only for small vehicles, due to rock falls, but they were cleared out fairly soon.

Unlike some of the older abandoned roads, the ranchers that use this one will occasionally bring out equipment to fix some of the storm damage.

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[*] posted on 12-15-2019 at 02:02 PM


Another shot, looking North.







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[*] posted on 12-15-2019 at 04:04 PM


Thanks for both. I will check back towards the end of January. We expect to cross the border about 1 Feb and wouldn't arrive in this area until a week or more later.
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[*] posted on 12-16-2019 at 07:37 AM


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[*] posted on 12-16-2019 at 08:25 AM


It looks like we'll go to El Cardonal. Not driving the right vehicle to tackle the rocks, plus we'll be towing an off-road teardrop. Wanted to add an avitar, but doesn't seem possible from my profile page.

Thanks for the info, I wouldn't have enjoyed the rocks in the picture above.
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[*] posted on 12-16-2019 at 08:35 AM


WOW, some really good info until it turned to chit! Take the politics some place else and let vespaio gather information that he asked for!
Vespaio, would love to see some pictures of said tear drop trailer! We are looking at one of the new hybrid pop up's that are out there. Would love some feed back on the good and bad of your trailer and use. PS I don't care about your politics at all!

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[*] posted on 12-16-2019 at 08:40 AM


The rocks in the photo are not part of the drive! I should have asked what you were driving in my first post, because I would not recommend pulling a trailer over that route.

I intend to be in that area sometime before you, and will check to see what the condition is by then.




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[*] posted on 12-16-2019 at 09:31 AM


since we have the history experts here - where is the name Bahia de los Muertos coming from?
And who built the port structures?




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[*] posted on 12-16-2019 at 09:39 AM


"since we have the history experts here - where is the name Bahia de los Muertos coming from?
And who built the port structures? "


The story I was told, is that a ship full of sick sailors anchored up there, and died! That's all I have, don't know who they were, or when it happened.

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[*] posted on 12-16-2019 at 10:03 AM


and the pier structures?



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[*] posted on 12-16-2019 at 10:08 AM


The Boleo Mine folks attempted to reopen the El Triunfo mine and built that dock. Let me dig up the data...


OK, per the Lower California Guidebook: the pier was built by the Boleo Company in 1924 to ship out silver from El Triunfo. Later it was used to ship out vegetables from Los Planes.

In the Baja Adventure Book: Diving is limited, but a huge anchor, metal rails, and ore carts will be found scattered over the bottom, mementos of the silver-mining operation of the 1920s.

I was there in August 2017:



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[*] posted on 12-16-2019 at 11:19 AM


I can confirm it is a b@tch on tires. I've had 3 truck tire issues in Baja in my life and all 3 were from this trail.

First time doing it we got a slow leak. Second trip we ripped out the sidewall and got a slow leak in another tire.





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Quote: Originally posted by vespaio  
It looks like we'll go to El Cardonal. Not driving the right vehicle to tackle the rocks, plus we'll be towing an off-road teardrop. Wanted to add an avitar, but doesn't seem possible from my profile page.

Thanks for the info, I wouldn't have enjoyed the rocks in the picture above.


Go up a little further. To the spot I have labelled "cool beach." That's about 7 miles further than El Cardonal.

The stretch from LB to there is the best part of the trail by far anyway. Going through the canyon is more for bragging rights. If another vehicle was coming the other way in the canyon it would be a mess as Gnukid said. I mentioned that to my kid when we were on it.

Here's where you should end at: 23.910853° -109.824783°. Pretty sure that's the spot Gnukid has in his first photo, which doesn't do the place justice.

Here is a shot of the rocks above that beach:




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[*] posted on 12-16-2019 at 11:40 AM


KMZ of the trail.



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