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[*] posted on 12-25-2019 at 04:18 AM
Calafia Airlines flight to GN missing


December 24:

'Calafia Airlines flight A7872, took off from Hermosillo, Mexico, at around 07:00 LT (GMT-7) in the direction of Guerrero Negro Airport, where it should have landed at 08:10 LT (GMT-7).
After takeoff, flying over the Sea of Cortez approximately 89 kilometers (48 nautical miles) from the departure airport, contact with the aircraft was lost.'

https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20191224-...


The pilot has been identified as Alfonso Palomares Navarrete, along with a single passenger identified as Carlos Omar Zárate Camacho of Santa Rosalía, Baja California Sur.

https://mvsnoticias.com/noticias/estados/desaparece-avioneta...




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[*] posted on 12-25-2019 at 05:09 AM


'ElbuenChabe (@chabelobaez), Replying to @UlisesGtzR: Yo trabaja para una mina ubicada en Santa Rosalia y varias veces y tomaba esa ruta Guerrero Negro-Hermosillo por Calafia. En una ocasión salimos de GN con poca 🌧 y con los vientos la avioneta giro a quedae casi vertical totalmente.'

Translation: ''I work for a mine located in Santa Rosalia and several times I took that route Guerrero Negro-Hermosillo through Calafia. On one occasion we left GN with little 🌧 and with the winds the plane turned almost completely vertical.'

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[*] posted on 12-25-2019 at 02:23 PM


A straight line from Hermosillo to Guerrero Negro would have taken it over Punta San Francisquito, then across the area north of El Arco. Remote area, not a good place to crash assuming they made it that far. Maybe somebody near Punta San Francisquito should take a boat out and search for survivors.
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[*] posted on 12-25-2019 at 05:20 PM


Aircraft type? C-208?
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[*] posted on 12-25-2019 at 06:22 PM


radar contact lost around here:
28°46'53.84"N, 112°30'52.50"W




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[*] posted on 12-25-2019 at 06:55 PM


My friends fly Calafia from Guaymas to Loreto often.




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[*] posted on 12-26-2019 at 09:19 AM


Anymore info on this? I haven't seen anything on the news?
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[*] posted on 12-26-2019 at 04:39 PM


NO SURVIVORS OBSERVED😭😭😭

Debris of the Cessna Caravan of the AeroCalafia company were found this afternoon 47.7 miles from the international airport in the city of Hermosillo.

From Facebook TalkBaja group:

In this aircraft was traveling as a passenger the young lawyer from Santa Rosalia Carlos Omar Zarate Camacho as well as the pilot identified as Alfonso Palomares Navarrete.

They were wanted since the morning of December 24, when they were heading to Guerrero Negro. It is noted that there was bad weather at the time of the aircraft's take-off.

Today, investigations will begin into what appears to be an accident in which there are no survivors.




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[*] posted on 12-27-2019 at 09:55 PM


Sad to hear this. It really is a small craft. May they RIP.




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[*] posted on 12-28-2019 at 10:19 AM
Not that small


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
Sad to hear this. It really is a small craft. May they RIP.


OK.... Small if you think a 737 is a small airliner,
But the Caravan is the real workhorse of the Third World
Lots of mission agencies use this across Africa and remote areas
Single engine, but tons of lifting power
We flew in one out to an outpost in Irian Jaya and there were six of us on board, plus the floor was full of roofing sheets, and even an iron cook stove being hauled out to the village.

I feel as safe in a Caravan as a 737 MAX (Lousy example, I know)
Trust me, this baby is the real deal
Don't blame pilot error (taking off in bad weather) on the aircraft
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[*] posted on 12-28-2019 at 11:25 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
Sad to hear this. It really is a small craft. May they RIP.


Smaller than a typical commercial jet. But at 13 pax capacity, a fairly large single engine prop plane. The Caravan is used all over mex as a puddle jumper between cities/places not served by commercial jets.




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[*] posted on 12-28-2019 at 12:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
radar contact lost around here:
28°46'53.84"N, 112°30'52.50"W
Which is out over the water, yet if I understand correctly the crash site was on land near the coast somewhere around Miguel Alemán. Had he turned back towards Hermosillo? :?:

[Edited on 12-28-2019 by lencho]


they almost made it to the sea.....here's a map showing the route and crash site
https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20191224-...
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[*] posted on 12-28-2019 at 04:51 PM
"Almost"???


Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
radar contact lost around here:
28°46'53.84"N, 112°30'52.50"W
Which is out over the water, yet if I understand correctly the crash site was on land near the coast somewhere around Miguel Alemán. Had he turned back towards Hermosillo? :?:

[Edited on 12-28-2019 by lencho]


they almost made it to the sea.....here's a map showing the route and crash site
https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20191224-...


I flew for 25 years, got my IFR rating
Never heard the word "almost" in reference to aviation
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[*] posted on 12-28-2019 at 05:28 PM


Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
radar contact lost around here:
28°46'53.84"N, 112°30'52.50"W
Which is out over the water, yet if I understand correctly the crash site was on land near the coast somewhere around Miguel Alemán. Had he turned back towards Hermosillo? :?:

[Edited on 12-28-2019 by lencho]


they almost made it to the sea.....here's a map showing the route and crash site
https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20191224-...


I flew for 25 years, got my IFR rating
Never heard the word "almost" in reference to aviation[/


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[*] posted on 12-28-2019 at 06:36 PM


Yeah, not sure almost fits in aviation! A lot of things that you can almost make work but I don't want a plane that I'm on to be one of them. I had a friend with an ultralight powered by a VW motor, I had a lot of VW'S that almost made a trip! I never went up with him, he never crashed but I'm OK with missing that adventure..
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[*] posted on 12-28-2019 at 06:44 PM
There's Bad Weather ..................


And then there's BAD weather !

How bad was it ? Does anybody here KNOW ?
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[*] posted on 12-29-2019 at 08:10 AM


Career pilot. J3 to 747. I know 3 pilot who took their last flight in a c208[caravan].
The wing was designed to be fast and fuel efficient. A complete departure from other single engine cessnas. A lot of compromise was present in the design in the interest of making the launch customer happy. [Fedex]
If that flight got high enough the find some icing conditions, that could have been a factor. More likely "controled flight into terrain " might be a cause.
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[*] posted on 12-29-2019 at 08:50 AM


Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
And then there's BAD weather !

How bad was it ? Does anybody here KNOW ?


Pilots have been pushing bad weather since aviation began. Some pay the ultimate price but it still happens in spite of all the examples. A fellow Lancair owner tried to get around some really bad weather in Idaho a few months ago. This was the result.

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[*] posted on 12-29-2019 at 10:56 AM


looks like this plane had past problems?

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[*] posted on 12-29-2019 at 01:48 PM


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