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Jinete Viejo
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Is Pavement a Mousse Killer?
How many miles of pavement can be run on a 450 before damaging a mousse tube?
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Chup
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Or, better stated; how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?
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There is another brand that holds up better, same company that makes the tubeless system. If you look around on Rocky Mountain they have some videos
abut the ones I'm talking about. The big issue is keeping them lubed and watching the speed on the highway. This brand is said to be good as long as
you stay under 75, which on my 500 is plenty fast on the highway...
Next tire change on my 500 I think I'm going to try them?
[Edited on 2-21-2020 by advrider]
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mjs
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Heat will kill them. So speed and ambient temperature will have a big bearing on mileage. But our experience is any significant distance at 50 - 55
or above is asking for failure. YMMV.
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Have to agree on that heat and speed does not do well.
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advrider
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Try this link, these are supposed to last twice as long and take the heat much better. I will know more after March when some guys I know get back
from trying them out on a ten day trip in Baja.
http://nitromousse.com/
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bajatrailrider
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There are many benefits using the mousse. Also many problems I will look forward to test of new ones. One big complaint is I adjust my tire psi for
the day. If tight trail hill climbing 4 to 6 psi. If road ride dirt road or pavement more psi. Also I have had to remove tire to regrease tube. I
always jack bike up on long storage. So no flat spots the best part about Mousse. Making trails over catus with no worry about flat tire .
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Jinete Viejo
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Thanks mjs, that is the input I was looking for. Can you provide a rough idea of how many miles a "significant distance" is?
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Quote: Originally posted by Jinete Viejo  | | Thanks mjs, that is the input I was looking for. Can you provide a rough idea of how many miles a "significant distance" is? |
It varies. How hard has the tire been run previously? How old? We ran 800 miles on one without issue. Never more than 50 MPH on pavement and no longer
than an hour or two with breaks.
You can always carry a tube but I have seen them destroy the tire when they go. You should consider a Tubliss system.
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bajatrailrider
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The tubeliss set up has its problems too. Ding the rim tire won't seal.
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True. But easy enough to remove and throw in a tube.
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I know on one trip to Baja one of the guys had the tubeless system but he had problems with it. One being the 100 PSI that the inner bladder required
to hold the tire on. At one point he screwed up the side wall and had to put a tube in? If you get good at changing tubes they are hard to beat for
endure ridding. Also if you do destroy a mousses, I've been told it's a big mess and can take the tire out as well?
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It's all a matter of luck on flats since nothing is fool proof. I'm running 4mil thick tubes. Carry spares and tools don't like it on the other hand.
With fail on moose and tubeless to have to carry a tube anyway . Is not worth it for me since I have spare set wheels. I should mount moose's on them
just for catus busting trails.
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Jinete Viejo
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I appreciate all of the good intel that has been provided here and pretty much agree with everything that has been said. On my upcoming ride I will
probably be doing some cactus busting trails so I think mousse is the right choice for this ride.
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A few years ago, we helped a guy (pre-running) at Cocos to remove a melted mousse from his rear tire. The three of us took over an hour to scrape it
out. After that experience, I swore I'd never use a mousse. I run Ultra HD tubes and carry paper thin (OEM factory issue) tubes with me.
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That is what I do.
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Hard to beat ultra HD natural rubber tubes, get good at changing tires and it's not much more then a quick break! Then have a shop patch the old one
just incase...
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throw in in a little Slime for good measure
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Slime works in my front tire but not in rear. As cheater tire flex will not let slime work. Or tire patches last about 10 min if close to house. I
ride back on flat far away all of us jump in to help.
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Jinete Viejo
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Slime users might want to consider Stan's. I've had better luck with Stan's than Slime.
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