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puzzled.gif posted on 3-24-2005 at 03:50 PM
Growing tomatos in Baja (JR?)


Someone posted some information last year about growing killer tomatos in the Rosarito area - was that you JR? What was the secret, does anyone remember? Something was put in the hole before you planted the new plant.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2005 at 10:14 PM


Here' my 2cents worth:

Use fresh chicken manure, bone meal and blood meal as fertilizer in soil that has the correct ph level. My Grandfather simply used to throw a fish in the bottom of a hole, and then planted!

Grow tomato plants from seed in mid-February instead of buying a ready-grown plant at a garden store. You get a stronger plant.

Break off the first tomatoes that a plant produces so that the plant will grow stronger before it has to support fruit.


Put sugar in the soil to help activate the microbes in the soil.


[Edited on 3-25-2005 by yankeeirishman]




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[*] posted on 3-25-2005 at 10:26 AM
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Very good Advice. My seeds are just now coming up.
I raisaed tomtoes in Loreto with much success. In addition to what you do, I let the Plant get a bit larger and then lay it in a Trench with just a small part showing to the Sun, get more plants coming from the stems being buried.

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[*] posted on 3-25-2005 at 11:08 AM


You know...when I first toured Campos Ocotillo to meet all the folks there?they all knew that I was into landscaping, and the asked a lot of questions. Most of the questions asked were why their plants looked like death! San Felipe is darn near nothing but pure sand. The water of the plant area evaporates rapidly, the fertilizers are washed away, and the micro nutrient system is washed away too. ?Rapidly I said! So to resolve these issues:

Dig you hole to the tune of a five-gallon bucket size and toss the sand away>take a 7 gallon plastic garbage bag, cut a 5 inch round hole at the bottom, then line this bag into that hole you just dug. The water is now allowed to drain also, as well as the roots can go further down with this opening. There will be some overlapping plastic protruding out from the hole. Yes! >Now place in that hole with first a fish head/parts of; it makes great fertilizer! >Fill the rest of the hole with bagged compost that you can buy at a local nursery or Home Depot in Mexicalli. I found it to be about $2.00 per 5-gallon bucket in San Felipe. > Now place your plant as you would normally do, in the prepared hole > Fold that overlapped plastic towards the plant?s stem, but leave area of 6 inches opened (for air circulation) > Place ? to whatever size rocks up top of the folded plastic and exposed compost area> Add water. You will find you be using 50% less water, having plants so big, that you can climb up on the vines to grab a golden egg, and have a very tasty product or colorful blooms. If you can?use a drip system. You all now owe me 20% of you crops for the next 10 years! Please use this advice on legal crops only!




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[*] posted on 3-25-2005 at 12:01 PM
Yes Bob


Twas I indeed. And it is simple and it works. Place a handful of alfalfa (sp) in the hole before you plant.:light:
Tomatoes did very well in the ocean aire using alfalfa and the ones that I didn't use it on were very unproductive.
That's a Kansas recipe and it works.
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[*] posted on 3-26-2005 at 04:46 PM


I had a hydropondic garden here in Coyote Bay back in the early 70's and it did very well with tomatoes. Soil-less with drip system. Now the enclosed garden cage has become a bird sanctuary with an open door...they can come and go as they please..with free feed.



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[*] posted on 3-26-2005 at 05:06 PM


one big secret is to git seeds that do well in your aria for example the ones that do good in San Quintin don't do well here in Mulege as a rule . our growing season , soils and claimant are different. do some experimenting in your aria with deferent types of seeds to see what works best for you. then use all the suggestions from the other Nomads and you will have the best tomatoes.:yes:



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[*] posted on 3-26-2005 at 06:05 PM


Once again ....the data God Bruce R Leech
gives good advice. I totally agree with area seeds when ever u can.




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[*] posted on 3-26-2005 at 06:18 PM


either way, 4 of my 5 varieties have broken groung and are in their first inch of life, cucumbers also. still waiting on the eggplant, zucchini, and various peppers to come up. god, i love this time of year.:bounce:



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[*] posted on 3-26-2005 at 08:33 PM


Is your Blue Cheese dressing coming up too? :lol:



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[*] posted on 3-26-2005 at 09:09 PM


i wish, yankee! but the crumbled Roquefort i had on my salad tonight-along with the dates made for an incredible finish to my easter eve. oh, and illinois in the final four....:biggrin:



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[*] posted on 3-29-2005 at 01:44 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by jrbaja
Twas I indeed. And it is simple and it works. Place a handful of alfalfa (sp) in the hole before you plant.:light:
Tomatoes did very well in the ocean aire using alfalfa and the ones that I didn't use it on were very unproductive.
That's a Kansas recipe and it works.


That's it! Where in the world do you buy Alfalfa? I'd sure like to try this.

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[*] posted on 3-29-2005 at 03:43 PM
Yikes Bob


You are flirting with disaster hanging around with the likes of that scoundrel:lol:

And, if you be in San Felipe, I would head up towards Mexicali the back way and you will probably be able to find some.
The trucks always park along side the free road from TJ to rosarito by the dairy as well.

[Edited on 3/29/2005 by jrbaja]
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[*] posted on 3-29-2005 at 05:35 PM


Yankee has the formula...
Blood meal, bone meal and chicken manure. Bones great for the roots and flowers, blood is great for the foilage.




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[*] posted on 3-29-2005 at 06:36 PM
Proper nitrogen levels are necessary....


Hence,vegetation, commercial preparations, etc., whatever you can fill the hole with anything that will nourish the plant, in "Baja Sur " plant in late fall....most important, as Bruce says.....the variety is most important!



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[*] posted on 3-29-2005 at 08:29 PM
herbs!!!


any advice on growing this particular herb:
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[*] posted on 3-29-2005 at 08:54 PM


Oh! That's the stuff that "they" grow in Bay of LA. No wonder everyone goes there!



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[*] posted on 3-30-2005 at 12:57 PM
KILLER TOMATOES


I took several different kinds of TOMATO SEEDS to a few of the RANCHERS that I visit in BAJA SUR. :bounce::bounce: a couple of years ago.
The TOMATOES that got the largest were named DELICIOUS ..... they have the record for the largest tomato ever produced from a plant.:o:o
ANTONIO ARCE ... who lives at RANCHO ESTACION ... inside SAN ZACARIAS (700 HECTARES or 1750 ACRES) 20 KM south of SAN IGNACIO .... wasn't even trying ..... when he produced a TOMATO that weighed ...
ONE KILO and 700 GRAMS or 3 and 3/4 pounds :o:o:o
I'll bet if he took several of the flowers off one of his plants he could get one even bigger. :bounce::bounce:

In the mountains they like a TOMATO that is smaller and quicker :bounce: ... like the BETTER BOY which has the record for 342 pounds from one plant.

very true ... different tomatoes for different areas .....:bounce::bounce:

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[*] posted on 4-3-2005 at 08:38 AM


Wow, My tomato plant is growing so fast!! I'll post photos later when the fruit appears



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[*] posted on 4-3-2005 at 10:39 AM
Did you find alfalfa?


or what method did you use?
I've been spreading tomatoe and other seeds throuout Baja and want to know the best methods for growing that are available here. Alfalfa is available and it works but if there's other stuff (natural)that can be obtained here, I'm interested.
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