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CFE classification
I was reading about CFE rates, but I could not understand the 1A, 1B, ... classification. Is it by region or zoning? How do I know where I am in this
(besides asking a neighbor)?
Thanks for your info.
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Alm
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It's location letter. Baja has all 7 types from 1 through 1F.
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del mar
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current rates...
https://app.cfe.mx/Aplicaciones/CCFE/Tarifas/TarifasCRECasa/...
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BajaBlanca
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We are indeed tarifa 1 and it does show green on the map. Who knew!
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pacificobob
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I have several questions about my CFE account. Why are some billed monthly, and others bimonthly?
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pacificobob
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My bill shows GDMTH as the tarifa. Any ideas of what that means?
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I just plunked in our location, Mulege, Baja California Sur, and it came back as GDMTH for the entire area of northern BCS. However, the dotted map
shows that it should be more like 1A or 1B. Maybe I do need to ask someone nearby...
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elfbrewery
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I don't have a bill. I was just trying to understand what the rates would be like in different areas of Baja or Mexico. Sorry....
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why its clear as mud to me!
https://cfe-recibos.com.mx/tarifas-gdmth/
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Alm
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Quote: Originally posted by lencho  |
Those who are fretting about the GDMTH thing, I believe that tariff schedule is for large consumers who have dedicated stepdown transformers, and I
can't understand why anyone here would be classified such.
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Maybe this is like (recently abolished) Mexican "Presunto Culpable" system - guilty until proven innocent? Tariff to be adjusted downwards later, if
customer insists  . Good documentary, btw.
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pacificobob
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When we first had electrical services installed we were the first inthe area to get it. For reasons i don't remember, the transformer and pole were
things i had to buy. If a fuse on the transformer blows, i have to pay to fix it. The guy who built the first casita and contracted to bring in the
power made a series of decisions while i was absent regarding the cfe. I have little doubt his choices were driven by expedience rether than cost. We
do use quite a few KWH for various pumps.
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Alm
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| Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | When we first had electrical services installed we were the first inthe area to get it. For reasons i don't remember, the transformer and pole were
things i had to buy. If a fuse on the transformer blows, i have to pay to fix it. The guy who built the first casita and contracted to bring in the
power made a series of decisions while i was absent regarding the cfe. I have little doubt his choices were driven by expedience rether than cost. We
do use quite a few KWH for various pumps. |
GDMTH is not about KWH of energy used over some period of time. Input from transformer to the only consumer must allow 100 KW draw. This is a big
transformer, huge. Many transformers hanging on the poles are 25-30KW, this is enough for 4 or 6 average casas. Yours could power a couple of blocks
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[Edited on 4-26-2020 by Alm]
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Alm
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25KW transformer costs ~$US 1,500. Can't say about 100KW, not a common thing in my area.
When other people want to hook up, they share the cost of transformer with whoever bought it.
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Alm
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Yes. Baja.
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pacificobob
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What i need to do is find a way to get counseled on my options. Previous attempts to have it explained have been disappointing. When the plague
eases up i should go to the la paz CFE world HQ, find someone to break it down for me.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob | | For reasons i don't remember, the transformer and pole were things i had to buy. If a fuse on the transformer blows, i have to pay to fix it.
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How much did that pole and transformer cost?
Does that mean you personally own those things?
I'm really curious how that works if you get neighbors who want to hook up. |
As far as I'm aware, if there are no poles and cables, or a transformer, close enough to your house to hook up to, you pay for those things yourself.
If anyone else wants to hook up to that equipment, they have to share the cost of what you paid. However, that is only in effect for the first year.
After one year, the equipment becomes CFE property, and others can hook into it without paying anything to the homeowner who originally paid for it.
At that point, CFE is responsible for maintaining the equipment, so if a fuse blows, they have to fix it at their expense.
The exception to this is if the transformer is actually on your property. In that case, it remains private, and any neighbors who want to hook up to
it could only do so wit your permission and by sharing in the cost.
Here is what happened in my area- it was a sparsely populated area, so I paid for one pole and cable, as well as paying something to the landowner who
had had the transformer installed (not on his private property). Others who were in the process of building (the area is far more populated now)
waited out the 1 year, so that they didn't have to pay the original landowner for the transformer, nor pay me a share for the pole and cables I paid
for and which they then piggybacked off of.
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[Edited on 4-27-2020 by surabi]
[Edited on 4-27-2020 by surabi]
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What's your designation/classification (1,1A,1B...) now?
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There is also such thing as a camp - property with multiple tenants and existing power service to the camp. Everybody pays camp owner for the
privilege to connect. Whoever buys the transformer, owns it. Those who join later, pay both the camp owner and the transformer owner. Cables and
labor from transformer to casa everybody buys for himself, and poles too, if necessary.
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The way i remember it...the +/-100m of wire, pole,transformer, and 120 meters of underground conduit and wire was around $15k.
This happened in 2006, so the numbers could be wrong. Since then i have on 3 occasions had a fuse toast...always on my dime. When the nearby lots
were developed i remember someone asking if they could tap into my transformer. I answered yes, for some sort of cost that was never mentioned. For
reasons i don't know, CFE ran a different line to serve those lots. I need some knowledgeable council on options. Btw, thanks to all for contributing
your thoughts.
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elfbrewery
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Very interesting. I'm living in a place that could (but is going solar) go the camp route that Alm mentions. I bet the transformer would have to be
one of bigguns. Thanks.
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