BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
Author: Subject: How La Ventana got its name...
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 60525
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Online

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 7-29-2020 at 12:53 PM
How La Ventana got its name...


The La Ventana on Hwy. 5, midway between Mexicali and San Felipe...

The window rock location on Howard Gulick's 1962 map:

La Ventana Gulick.jpg - 305kB

The one-time gas station and now rest stop/ store is at Km. 105...





Located at the far north-east end of the Sierra Pinta, Howard Gulick photographs the window rock in 1959... note the man standing next to it for scale.



bb09227077_2.jpg - 158kB





Looking through the window:






"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

Baja Missions On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Over 80 Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Visit Viva Baja, to help you plan your next adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 30 (2018) Baja Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 60525
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Online

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 7-29-2020 at 04:31 PM


On Google Earth: 31° 43.109'N, 115° 2.288'W
Access from the cell tower road, Km. 109, but don't drive onto the playa in case the tide has been high (and is hidden below the salt)!

[Edited on 7-29-2020 by David K]




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

Baja Missions On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Over 80 Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Visit Viva Baja, to help you plan your next adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 30 (2018) Baja Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2337
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-29-2020 at 05:10 PM


I tried to get there from the north starting from the new bridge (k107). I was alone and the mud was very soft. I did not have the coords at that time an was driving from his description.
How did you get the coords?
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 60525
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Online

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 7-29-2020 at 05:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
I tried to get there from the north starting from the new bridge (k107). I was alone and the mud was very soft. I did not have the coords at that time an was driving from his description.
How did you get the coords?


I flew over it on Google Earth.




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

Baja Missions On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Over 80 Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Visit Viva Baja, to help you plan your next adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 30 (2018) Baja Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2337
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-29-2020 at 05:22 PM


But how did you know which rock was the location.
Next year I will try to drive there. I just made two GE tracks to try. Starting just south of the tower road in a poorly defined gully. I wonder if there will be access thru the fence.
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 60525
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Online

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 7-29-2020 at 05:37 PM


I knew where La Ventana was because Howard Gulick put it on his map. Then I simply flew over the area on Google Earth and matched the hill to the 1959 photo from Howard Gulick.



"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

Baja Missions On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Over 80 Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Visit Viva Baja, to help you plan your next adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 30 (2018) Baja Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 60525
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Online

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 12-19-2020 at 10:27 AM


La Ventana came up in a Facebook post... this fellow saw weird globes over the delta in 1982.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/historiadelapeninsuladebajac...




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

Baja Missions On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Over 80 Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Visit Viva Baja, to help you plan your next adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 30 (2018) Baja Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 13762
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline

Mood: Very stable genius!

[*] posted on 12-19-2020 at 10:39 AM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
But how did you know which rock was the location.
Next year I will try to drive there. I just made two GE tracks to try. Starting just south of the tower road in a poorly defined gully. I wonder if there will be access thru the fence.


It’s only 1+ mile off the paved road. Easy walk. Every long drive is healthier for the body if you stop midway for a bit of exercise, 1-hr per day of exercise will improve health and lead to longer life.




Woke!

“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”

View user's profile
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2337
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


wow.gif posted on 12-19-2020 at 04:10 PM


I made a GE track to the place. 1.26 miles when driven
Exit Hwy5 at KM109

Attachment: to Ventana-1.kml (6kB)
This file has been downloaded 53 times

[Edited on 12-20-2020 by PaulW]
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 60525
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Online

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 12-19-2020 at 04:16 PM


Nice job Paul.



"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

Baja Missions On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Over 80 Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Visit Viva Baja, to help you plan your next adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 30 (2018) Baja Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2337
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-19-2020 at 04:24 PM


Before I got Davids correct instructions I spent several days looking for Bruce Barber's ventana west of highway 5 and I found many small caves and one big window. Since we found this big one the Jeep club makes regular drive/hike to that place.



P3021888-150.jpg - 188kB P1090336.JPG - 80kB
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 60525
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Online

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 12-19-2020 at 04:36 PM


Very cool... Yes, I was a fan of Bruce's writings/ book. Many 'ventanas' in that region!

I had hoped to get him and Choral Pepper connected because he was so fascinated with finding the Melchior Diaz Grave, after reading her Desert Magazine story, but she died before we could make it happen. I met Bruce at the Pyramid Resort event and he signed my copy of his book.




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

Baja Missions On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Over 80 Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Visit Viva Baja, to help you plan your next adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 30 (2018) Baja Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2337
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-19-2020 at 05:22 PM


My mission with Bruce was a little confusing. Followed his directions and came up blank. Kept trying out west. Lots of hiking and driving so I was happy. Never once did he suggest to look east of the highway.
Similar to the Diaz directions he gave me. More driving and hiking with no success
I do think Bruce and buddy did incomplete research and did a lot of guessing for his searches.
Anyway it is a lot of fun wandering around in the backcountry.
View user's profile
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 60525
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Online

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 3-24-2021 at 10:37 AM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
My mission with Bruce was a little confusing. Followed his directions and came up blank. Kept trying out west. Lots of hiking and driving so I was happy. Never once did he suggest to look east of the highway.
Similar to the Diaz directions he gave me. More driving and hiking with no success
I do think Bruce and buddy did incomplete research and did a lot of guessing for his searches.
Anyway it is a lot of fun wandering around in the backcountry.


There is renewed interest in retracing Walter Henderson's search. Since his directions use La Ventana, it is important to know the La Ventana of the 1930s was this window rock along the old dirt road to San Felipe and not the closed gas station and store location on the paved road.

Bruce Barber and others following what Choral Pepper wrote all had an incorrect starting point for figuring where the hike began. La Ventana was a waypoint and not the starting point, which was 20 more miles south and then west at the base of the mountains.




"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

Baja Missions On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Over 80 Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Visit Viva Baja, to help you plan your next adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 30 (2018) Baja Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
David K
Honored Nomad
*********


Avatar


Posts: 60525
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
Member Is Online

Mood: Have Baja Fever

[*] posted on 4-6-2021 at 02:00 PM


Bump for Paul



"So Much Baja, So Little Time..."

Baja Missions On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Over 80 Baja Bound Travel Adventure articles: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/

Visit Viva Baja, to help you plan your next adventure: http://VivaBaja.com

My 30 (2018) Baja Maps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
PaulW
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2337
Registered: 5-21-2013
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 4-6-2021 at 02:08 PM


Thanks
View user's profile

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262