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[*] posted on 9-20-2021 at 05:38 AM
Campo Rene


any recent info on Campo Rene and or Punta Abreojos?
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[*] posted on 9-20-2021 at 07:18 AM


Campo Rene is closed until????

What specifically do you need to know about Abreojos? Restaurants are open, hotels are open, life as usual.





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[*] posted on 9-20-2021 at 11:33 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
Campo Rene is closed until????

What specifically do you need to know about Abreojos? Restaurants are open, hotels are open, life as usual.


Is there a way to launch a tin boat into Coyote Lagoon without using the Rene launch Rene launch ramp?
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[*] posted on 9-20-2021 at 02:54 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
Campo Rene is closed until????

What specifically do you need to know about Abreojos? Restaurants are open, hotels are open, life as usual.


Is there a way to launch a tin boat into Coyote Lagoon without using the Rene launch Rene launch ramp?


I was there in July and the chain gate was down and there was a watchman there 24/7 and he was allowing folks to use the ramp and dry camp for a price. Haven't heard any more recent reports.
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[*] posted on 9-21-2021 at 07:45 PM


Found out today that someone recently (beginning of this month) was told NOT allowed to go in the lagoon.




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[*] posted on 9-21-2021 at 08:17 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
Found out today that someone recently (beginning of this month) was told NOT allowed to go in the lagoon.


Wtf?

Is that draconian rule applicable to tourists/gringos or all people?





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[*] posted on 9-21-2021 at 08:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
Found out today that someone recently (beginning of this month) was told NOT allowed to go in the lagoon.


Did your informant say that the lagoon is closed, or just the access through Campo Rene?




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[*] posted on 9-22-2021 at 03:44 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
Found out today that someone recently (beginning of this month) was told NOT allowed to go in the lagoon.


Interesting. Once again the desires and rules of the Cooporativos can trump any federal laws. Have some friends who do a kayak fishing excursion to Punta Eugenia every year for over 10 years and this year their contact told them that the Co-Ops in Tortugas and Eugenia are not allowing any outside people to fish the waters up there.
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[*] posted on 9-22-2021 at 05:34 AM


My understanding was that no one is allowed to be on the lagoon, fishing or boating.









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[*] posted on 9-22-2021 at 08:54 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
My understanding was that no one is allowed to be on the lagoon, fishing or boating.


why? fishing rights? covid? real estate dispute? protection of some endangered critter? or just plain crazy?




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[*] posted on 9-22-2021 at 09:33 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca  
My understanding was that no one is allowed to be on the lagoon, fishing or boating.






Does that apply to the La Bocana lagoon a well?
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[*] posted on 9-22-2021 at 09:38 AM


Maybe it's just being over utilized. Too many boats, people, etc. Wildlife, even aquatic life, does not thrive with constant disturbances from humans. Estuarine environments are extremely fragile and easily destroyed or disrupted.

Just look at all the different (and probably some new) whale watching and fishing operations that are competing over a very tiny resource. Lagoons can only handle so much exploitation. There's new air service to La Bocana advertised on weekend radio here in San Diego from a Cedros Island business. Everyone's trying to make a buck off the area now.

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[*] posted on 9-22-2021 at 09:51 AM


This is a vary good thing.

There should be a moratorium for say, a 5 year span, to NOT fish in certain areas and/or certain species so as to not deplete them into extinction.
Of course the time span would depend on each species recovery rate.

But trying in get all the Countries of the world to agree is definitely impossible..

The world is screwed as long as we keep going the direction that w are.




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[*] posted on 9-22-2021 at 01:17 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by Rossman  

Interesting. Once again the desires and rules of the Cooporativos can trump any federal laws.

What's your opinion about that?

Personally, I can see it both ways; a lot of times regulations established by burrocrats sitting on their duff in Mexico City, have little relation to what's actually happening out in the field.


Well I certainly understand it given the revenue that the co-ops bring to the table. I am honored to be a guest in this great country and as such I try very hard to abide by the rules and laws. I fish Campo Rene and the Punta Eugenia area more than a handful of times a year and would be a little miffed if I made the trip to be turned away at my destination. And I'm only traveling a couple hours. It's just some added confusion in a country that is already confused about the enforcement of any rule or law.
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[*] posted on 9-22-2021 at 01:39 PM


I think that the gill netting that took place over a decade ago at Coyote was devastating to the fish there. But they stopped that and I personally have not seen gill nets anywhere in the last 5 years.

Personally I don't think the spotted bay bass (which is what you mostly catch) are kept that much by sportfishermen. I just don't think there is enough meat on them to make much of a meal. The other two fish are halibut and corvina. The halibut are not that numerous and the corvina are a migrating fish that move in and out of the estero. I don't think it gets pounded that hard. Unlike L Manuela there are no large populations near it. The people in Abreojos and Bocana get their seafood locally. It's also a long drive from hwy 1. The Campo Rene people will not let you collect shellfish from the flats either. The situation is better than before.

I suspect that the closure is due to Covid. That's my guess.
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[*] posted on 9-22-2021 at 01:55 PM


Isn't there a property dispute of some kind at Campo Rene? Is it private property or Ejido property? Or is that the dispute?



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[*] posted on 9-23-2021 at 05:14 AM


OPEN OPEN OPEN

The lagoon/ramp is now open for boats. NO restaurant and NO cabins.

I personally have not heard of any dispute - all this closure was due to COVID.





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[*] posted on 9-23-2021 at 06:57 AM


Hi Blanca

Do you know if they are allowing RV camping? We are certainly prepared to pay for that if they do allow it. Might be passing through towards the end of October.

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[*] posted on 9-23-2021 at 08:36 AM


Area of interest.
Campo René is on Estero el Coyote.



Road to La Bocana was paved after the map was made.
The 3,600+ foot-long landing strip, by Campo René, is also known under the name 'Bahía de las Ballenas'.

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[*] posted on 9-23-2021 at 06:08 PM


Howard, I have absolutely no idea but my guess is no go to camping since the cabins are also closed.

You can hang out in front of our hotel and for $5 pperson have access to showers and bathrooms, internet and chats with Blanca and Les!





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