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Streaming with VPN
I'd like to hear what your experiences have been using streaming devices like
Apple TV, roku ect ,with a VPN.
is the streaming much slower? Can YouTube TV or Netflix discover your location
and not provide content from the U.S.?
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I use YouTube TV, Netflix, & Paramount + here in Loreto. Had to get my phone line completely replaced and a new modem. Its been working well.
Just have to be sure the VPN is connected before opening YouTube.
As a side note, Amazon Prime does not recognize the use of a VPN.
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YouTube works fine with Nord VPN logged into a US server. I haven't come across any location restricted videos.
Bank of America is unreachable using the Nord VPN, at least for me. So VPNs can be detected but I think it is at the connection level. If that's true,
once you're in with a US IP address, you're in the US.
Maybe.
[Edited on 9-27-2021 by SFandH]
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Web sites and streaming services will use up to two ways to detect your location.
Most just look at your IP address, which the VPNs change to locations in the US. This works for most services. The only caveat being the services
know some IP address locations are VPN servers and block those. You just need to keep picking different locations until you find one that works.
Your browser will also track your location. Some services do this second level of checking as well.
Here is another example. To use 95% of YTTV channels, simply changing your IP using a VPN proxy server works fine. But YTTV does a second check
using your browser location before allowing you to watch local channels, ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX.
You can spoof the location in you browser as well to defeat this check. There are YT videos out there which show how to do it.
[Edited on 9-27-2021 by JZ]
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My only account with Bank of America, is the Visa card that is connected to my Alaska Airlines mileage plan. I have had no problems accessing that
account while in Baja, even using the public WIFI at the campground I stayed at.
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I've noticed a few websites won't allow me to access them from outside of the US. I can't access Cox or our former trash company.
We don't watch much tv but are pleased with Mexico Netflix. If you have a Samsung TV/device, you can get a lot of channels for free with Samsung TV
Plus
https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/tvpl...
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interesting comparison of Netflix content around the world.....im content with Netflix mexico but I also have Directv.
https://www.finder.com/netflix-usa-vs-world-content
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Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  | | My only account with Bank of America, is the Visa card that is connected to my Alaska Airlines mileage plan. I have had no problems accessing that
account while in Baja, even using the public WIFI at the campground I stayed at. |
I have no trouble connecting with a Mexican IP address either. But when I have my VPN on and am connected to an American server, the bank won't
connect. It doesn't like VPN access.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | Do you mean it doesn't work over a VPN,
or that it doesn't detect that it's a VPN in order to block it? 
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I never could get Prime to work down here using Surf Shark. It would start to connect then say can't access Prime from your country.
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For the record, we use strong VPN for their outstanding customer service.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
Rather than a bother, I think that's probably a good security practice; why would a legitimate customer connect trying to hide her location?
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Wuut?
A lot of ppl use VPNs all the time to protect their data and identity. It's a very smart security practice.
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I looked into using a VPN with Roku and it was above my pay grade, I bagged the whole idea
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Thanks for all the comments. A giant range of experience.
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I also tried a VPN with roku...someone eventually told me roku would function with a VPN......But not until i beat my head against the wall for
several days trying.
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There are other factors (besides the geo-location of the IP) that some services use to determine use of a VPN or proxy of some sort.
As noted some services like YTTV may have identified certain IP addresses as VPN. But those services (Nord, Surfshark, etc) may have other servers
that are not yet identified as such. So, sometimes you have to change the server you're connecting through. Some of the servers run faster than others
- and there's some trial and error.
With Roku, one can connect through a router setup with OpenVPN using Nord or Surfshark, etc. I've previously mentioned using portable mini-routers so
that one can connect to the local wifi wherever they're at (including at home).
Make sure the device you're on is using the same time as the time zone your VPN IP is geographically located - that's something that's also looked for
by some services. Therefore if you're on a Roku and connecting into a VPN router, connect to the VPN first, then reboot the system so that it changes
to the time zone on the device to the time zone of the IP the VPN is using, and *then* connect to the channel/app/service you're attempting to access
via Roku.
FWIW... Nord makes it easy for a device - like a browser window, or a cell phone, tablet, etc to connect and change servers... but they only supply a
list of servers without their geo-location if you're using a router (again, suggest using one with OpenVPN already setup). You have to try the IP's
one-by-one and then check their location and if the IP is still anonymized well-enough.
I've found the following site of some use in determining if an IP has been identified, or is easily identified or not, as a VPN:
https://whoer.net
- if the anonymizer is green, it tends to work more often than not. I've seen some Nord IP's specifically identified as Nord VPN, and other Nord IP's
are green/anonymous. It's a one-by-one situation.
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad |
I've found the following site of some use in determining if an IP has been identified, or is easily identified or not, as a VPN:
https://whoer.net
- if the anonymizer is green, it tends to work more often than not. I've seen some Nord IP's specifically identified as Nord VPN, and other Nord IP's
are green/anonymous. It's a one-by-one situation.
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I'll give this a look. Sometimes you have to try many VPN servers before finding one that works.
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Might want to avoid Express VPN.
https://gizmodo.com/you-should-probably-stop-using-expressvp...
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
But these days with most data moving over HTTPS connections, I still don't understand the security advantages of a VPN. Spoofing
location, yeah... |
I looked into it a bit because this stuff interests me. A VPN will prevent your ISP from logging what websites you have visited and any file downloads
you have made. I think the ISP knows even https, port 443 websites visited because the data is available to them before the SSL connection is made.
ISP logs can be subpoenaed by authorities, (no warrant needed) so if you're worried about that, VPN is the way to go. When using a VPN, all the ISP
knows is the IP of the VPN server, which is acting as a proxy.
And of course, VPNs will encrypt data packets to and from http, port 80 web servers.
I use Nord VPN solely to obtain a US IP address when I'm in Mex and am connecting to a server that doesn't like non-US IPs. I've come across several
websites that will not accept a Mexican IP address. For example, CVS pharmacy wouldn't let me connect about an appointment for a COVID vaccination
until I logged into a US VPN server. It blocked my Mexican IP address.
It's probably best to have a VPN service if you're spending a lot of time out of the U.S. I suspect "geo-blocking" will become more prevalent.
[Edited on 9-29-2021 by SFandH]
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I think so. I've read about privacy issues that come about when authorities subpoena ISP log files. US courts have ruled that a warrant is not
required.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | A VPN will prevent your ISP from logging what websites you have visited and any file downloads you have made. |
Interesting research.
Are the major ISP's actually archiving all their customers' connections? I |
The ISPs and content providers track everything you do! They sell the data to marketers that are eager to sell you chit.
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