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UPDATE on my ECR Hike
First off I HOPE everyone had a Merry Christmas!
Here is where I am on my attempt to hike the the El Camino Real between the missions of Santa Gertrudis and San Borja.
On 10/31 I posted on here about my upcoming hike looking for info, which I received a lot of. Between 4x4abc, google earth, the internet and the folks
over at CAMINOREALBAJA.COM I was able to map out the most likely water sources.
TMW offered a possible shuttle and things were moving along.
Early November I sent off my Passport for renewal and was a little worried about when it would come back.
My daughter and her boyfriend agreed to go, so that solved the shuttle issue.
The first of December I requested December 31rst thru January 11th off.
Here is where things started going south.
On December 2 a coworker tested positive for Covid. On the 4th I was sick but it just felt like a cold. On December 7th after being really sick for 3
days, I tested positive for Covid.
On December 12 I spent the day in the hospital. After two weeks I was able to return to work and was barely able to work 4 hours a day.
Because my work only offers 3 sick days per year, I burned thru a big chunk of my vacation time.
As of today I get tired real fast and have a little trouble breathing but I am much better than I was 2 weeks ago!
So as of now, I have cancelled my vacation request and I am just waiting until I start feeling better before I ask for time off. I am hoping for any
early February trip, but we will see.
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John Harper
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What a bummer! Hope your prognosis is good, take care. Were you vaccinated prior to contracting Covid? Was it Omicron?
Sounds like the economic impact of this disease is another tragic side effect, yet overlooked by so many. Two weeks out of work is significant.
Godspeed a full recovery.
John
[Edited on 12-27-2021 by John Harper]
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Fatboy
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Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  | What a bummer! Hope your prognosis is good, take care. Were you vaccinated prior to contracting Covid? Was it Omicron?
Sounds like the economic impact of this disease is something almost as serious, yet overlooked by many.
Godspeed a full recovery.
John |
Was NOT vaccinated, and the 'funny' part is I had an appointment a few weeks ago to get the shot but I was unable to make it because a oregon coast
backpacking trip went bad with impassable rivers and and vehicle breakdowns.
My daughter is vaccinated and she came over to 'nurse' me and she ended up testing positive for it but only felt some mild symptoms for less than 2
days.
I am sure age had something to do with it, old folks like me are more likely to have more serious issues with covid, but the vaccine works and my
opinion is for everyone to get the shot.
It has been over 3 weeks since my symptoms started and I am still no where near normal today.
As far as the economic impact, without a doubt. What is the reason to stay home while sick while the bills roll in and yet many people have little to
no sick time and perhaps no vacation time to cover the gap and I GOT SICK FROM BEING AT WORK.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy | | Quote: Originally posted by John Harper | What a bummer! Hope your prognosis is good, take care. Were you vaccinated prior to contracting Covid? Was it Omicron?
Sounds like the economic impact of this disease is something almost as serious, yet overlooked by many.
Godspeed a full recovery.
John |
Was NOT vaccinated, and the 'funny' part is I had an appointment a few weeks ago to get the shot but I was unable to make it because a oregon coast
backpacking trip went bad with impassable rivers and and vehicle breakdowns.
My daughter is vaccinated and she came over to 'nurse' me and she ended up testing positive for it but only felt some mild symptoms for less than 2
days.
I am sure age had something to do with it, old folks like me are more likely to have more serious issues with covid, but the vaccine works and my
opinion is for everyone to get the shot.
It has been over 3 weeks since my symptoms started and I am still no where near normal today.
As far as the economic impact, without a doubt. What is the reason to stay home while sick while the bills roll in and yet many people have little to
no sick time and perhaps no vacation time to cover the gap and I GOT SICK FROM BEING AT WORK.
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Dude,
You should have been vaccinated long ago!
Good example of why people should be vaccinated!
[Edited on 12-27-2021 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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David K
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Oh my, so sorry!!
Next year will be better, and the ECR will still be there!
Studying the ECR has been a favorite subject since I was a kid!
Because you are also an Erle Stanley Gardner fan, you might enjoy the many photos I have acquired from the Temecula Valley museum. I have so many, and
on my new Viva Baja web page, I am still uploading and organizing them. If you want an advanced peek (but come back in a week and look again): https://vivabaja.com/erle-stanley-gardners-photos-in-baja-ca...
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Fatboy
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Alas, more bad news.
I received this from the folks over at CAMINOREALBAJA.COM
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Hello John,
We have some bad news for you. We recommend you cancel the trip as planned because we found out there are Narcos in El Paraiso. We actually saw some
debris at another place from their activities too. It looks like they are using the water holes for small crops. At this time, we don’t know where
all they have established. We are surprised that they are in a place like El Paraiso.
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John Harper
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| Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy |
As far as the economic impact, without a doubt. What is the reason to stay home while sick while the bills roll in and yet many people have little to
no sick time and perhaps no vacation time to cover the gap and I GOT SICK FROM BEING AT WORK. |
Yes, it's too bad there isn't some kind of short term disability, or even worker's compensation insurance to help out. But, we all know the chances
of that happening. Slim and None, and Slim just left town.
John
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| Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy | Alas, more bad news.
I received this from the folks over at CAMINOREALBAJA.COM
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Hello John,
We have some bad news for you. We recommend you cancel the trip as planned because we found out there are Narcos in El Paraiso. We actually saw some
debris at another place from their activities too. It looks like they are using the water holes for small crops. At this time, we don’t know where
all they have established. We are surprised that they are in a place like El Paraiso. |
Where is el paraiso?
Sad when rural baja gets taken over by narcos…
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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David K
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Contact Teddi 'Baja Bucko' who rides mules through there, and 'Paulina' was not real far away, recently, riding on ECR.
There's always the Golfo Camino Real between Santa Gertrudis and San Borja, as an option. It is also plotted on the new Benchmark Atlas (thanks to
CaminoRealBaja.com)
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy | Alas, more bad news.
I received this from the folks over at CAMINOREALBAJA.COM
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Hello John,
We have some bad news for you. We recommend you cancel the trip as planned because we found out there are Narcos in El Paraiso. We actually saw some
debris at another place from their activities too. It looks like they are using the water holes for small crops. At this time, we don’t know where
all they have established. We are surprised that they are in a place like El Paraiso. |
Where is el paraiso?
Sad when rural baja gets taken over by narcos… |
Look southward from San Borja:
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Fatboy
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Contact Teddi 'Baja Bucko' who rides mules through there, and 'Paulina' was not real far away, recently, riding on ECR.
There's always the Golfo Camino Real between Santa Gertrudis and San Borja, as an option. It is also plotted on the new Benchmark Atlas (thanks to
CaminoRealBaja.com) |
One option on this hike was just do a loop, San Borja south to junction with the Gulf side ECR and back but that still involves El Parasio.
And I really want to do El Parasio!
I wonder how long they might be there? Is there a 'season'?
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Fatboy
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | Oh my, so sorry!!
Next year will be better, and the ECR will still be there!
Studying the ECR has been a favorite subject since I was a kid!
Because you are also an Erle Stanley Gardner fan, you might enjoy the many photos I have acquired from the Temecula Valley museum. I have so many, and
on my new Viva Baja web page, I am still uploading and organizing them. If you want an advanced peek (but come back in a week and look again): https://vivabaja.com/erle-stanley-gardners-photos-in-baja-ca... |
The pictures help add another dimensions to Gardner's trips. It was cool to see all of these.
That stock looking VW beetle at Santa Maria is mind blowing. While I have not been to Santa Maria, I have been down thru the 'swamp" and a ways up the
other side before I turned around....SO CLOSE!
Also, about 2/3rds of the ways thru these pictures are a acouple with what like a giant daisy, do you know what that is?
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Hope for a speedy recovery. Maybe next winter I will be able to join you with the change in plans? Any hike would be fun down there, a loop or
whatever.
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Glad you are on the mend and still planning what sounds like a wonderful trip. Please stay safe.
A life of fears leads to a death bed of regrets.
Find someone who will take care of you, and take care of them.
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | Oh my, so sorry!!
Next year will be better, and the ECR will still be there!
Studying the ECR has been a favorite subject since I was a kid!
Because you are also an Erle Stanley Gardner fan, you might enjoy the many photos I have acquired from the Temecula Valley museum. I have so many, and
on my new Viva Baja web page, I am still uploading and organizing them. If you want an advanced peek (but come back in a week and look again): https://vivabaja.com/erle-stanley-gardners-photos-in-baja-ca... |
The pictures help add another dimensions to Gardner's trips. It was cool to see all of these.
That stock looking VW beetle at Santa Maria is mind blowing. While I have not been to Santa Maria, I have been down thru the 'swamp" and a ways up the
other side before I turned around....SO CLOSE!
Also, about 2/3rds of the ways thru these pictures are a acouple with what like a giant daisy, do you know what that is? |
I have just finished editing the ESG page (for today), and I have grouped the photos together, better than they were. Look again, and tell me what
group you see that in... https://vivabaja.com/erle-stanley-gardners-photos-in-baja-ca... thanks!
Edit:
This agave?
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Fatboy
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That is what it is, an agave?
But yes that pic.
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Fatboy
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Dude,
You should have been vaccinated long ago!
Good example of why people should be
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I AGREE!
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| Quote: Originally posted by advrider | | Hope for a speedy recovery. Maybe next winter I will be able to join you with the change in plans? Any hike would be fun down there, a loop or
whatever. |
I do a fair amount of hiking in the states when I can finagle time off from work (usually unpaid  ....).
In 2021 I did 6 days in Glacier National park. While I avoid the national parks like a plague Glacier was amazing.
Did a section of the Oregon Coast this fall.
Also did several Utah trips this year ranging from 3 to 5 days backpacking.
While most of my stuff is off the more well known trails, I usually have lots of solitude and sometimes some crazy adventures.
You are welcome to join in on any of them. I am getting up there in years so the mileage isn't very high usually but then again about half my trips
do not follow a trail for the most part.
Glacier was a high mile trip, a little over 70 miles in 5 days, but most are in the 20 to 40 mile range over 3 or 4 days.
Let me know if you want to go sometime.
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David K
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To be it looks like an agave (Century plant), uprooted and on its side, pointing away from the camera???
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I would love to join you, I start the PCT March 17th so I will be gone for about six months on that. You are welcome to join me if there is a section
you want to do?
When I get back, I want to do surprise canyon outside of Death Valley, while not long it looks fun. I want to spend about three days hiking around
the ghost town.
I retired in November and want to stay active so I will stay in touch for sure. There are several places I want to hike in Baja.
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