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Inflation in Baja
Mexico has normally had pretty cheap electricity compared to Canada and the US. Along with gasoline price increases, is anyone noticing much more
costly food, electricity, propane and natural gas prices lately?
[Edited on 2-11-2022 by JDCanuck]
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balancing 2 tires went from $100 to 200
dog food (40 lb) went from $585 to $730
my cigars went from $83 to $93 ea
bread still $150
Gas still around $20.50
beer unchanged
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The electric bill on my house in Sonora was always very high in the summer months. Much higher than the US.
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Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  | balancing 2 tires went from $100 to 200
dog food (40 lb) went from $585 to $730
my cigars went from $83 to $93 ea
bread still $150
Gas still around $20.50
beer unchanged |
So the necessities , Beer, Gas and Bread remain about the same, while transportation repairs and pet food is rising. We are seeing drastic increases
in energy, most foods up here, altho, yeah bread is still the same. I checked the cost of propane in Mexico tho for the backup generator, and it has
almost doubled in a couple years. This and gasoline are the only energy costs we have down in Baja, so I was getting a bit worried. Good to hear
gasoline costs have stayed down, likely due to significant hedging by Mexico, while it is hitting new highs up here and oil is still well below past
peaks. I see a new 1970's type inflationary period setting in globally and preparing to hedge myself wherever possible.
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I've watched a bunch of stuff on the Canadian truckers. Good for those guys. But it's definitely gonna hose up the supply chain even more.
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What about Chokis'?
Can I still afford to get my cookie fix at an Oxxo?
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
DavidK: My fault I guess, I was unaware of the consequences of starting a new topic by bringing up an existing post and hitting the new topic tab. I
promise to be more careful in future. |
Oh, no worries... just wondering if I missed some reason (which I do more often as I get older)!
This is Doug's forum and he moved it to Q&A and removed my question (good job, Doug).
Gasoline this week at the cheapest place typically in San Diego North County (Costco, San Marcos) was $4.29 for 87 octane. Since everything needs to
be shipped from the source to the market, this allowing fuel prices to rise, directly increases the costs of EVERYTHING.
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Based on fuel costs rising, and then eventually moving to costs of electricity, it seems it's a better time than ever to consider solar, altho lately
even it has been affected by supply and tariff cost increases after decades of steadily decreasing costs. I noticed quite a few people in on grid
areas just install enough solar to keep them down at the lowest tier and give them power for necessary equipment in outages. Seems like an
increasingly wise way to go.
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All goods are up in Mexico City water and power still cheap. Water went up to 7 bucks a month. Power Nov. Dec. 15 bucks two months.
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We were amazed at the low cost of water at 12 pesos or even lower to get the bottle refilled. The Mexican government seems to be doing extremely well
at keeping gasoline, power and water costs down in this global high demand period. Grow your own fruit and vegies, catch fish and collect oysters and
it's a whole lot cheaper still to survive down there.
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Case of Pacifico in Los Barriles went from $350 to $370
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | We were amazed at the low cost of water at 12 pesos or even lower to get the bottle refilled. The Mexican government seems to be doing extremely well
at keeping gasoline, power and water costs down in this global high demand period. Grow your own fruit and vegies, catch fish and collect oysters and
it's a whole lot cheaper still to survive down there. |
They wanted the price of gas to go up in the US so they could force ppl to EVs.
Don't think that is gonna work out too well for them.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | We were amazed at the low cost of water at 12 pesos or even lower to get the bottle refilled. The Mexican government seems to be doing extremely well
at keeping gasoline, power and water costs down in this global high demand period. Grow your own fruit and vegies, catch fish and collect oysters and
it's a whole lot cheaper still to survive down there. |
They wanted the price of gas to go up in the US so they could force ppl to EVs.
Don't think that is gonna work out too well for them.
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Who is the “they” in your conspiracy theory?
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That is almost a 50% increase!
| Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto | | for years my electrical bills stayed around $5 a month now they've jumped up to a whopping $7 a month. couple years ago Tecate was 120p a 12 pack now
its always around 150p. Telnor has gone up a few bucks also. |
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | We were amazed at the low cost of water at 12 pesos or even lower to get the bottle refilled. The Mexican government seems to be doing extremely well
at keeping gasoline, power and water costs down in this global high demand period. Grow your own fruit and vegies, catch fish and collect oysters and
it's a whole lot cheaper still to survive down there. |
It costs me about the same to fill up here as it does in San Diego. The cost of water (for five gallons) recently went from 15-20 pesos. Electricity
is not cheap either. So I'd have to disagree with your statement.
But overall, the cost of living here is well below living in San Diego. The biggest difference is that there are few opportunities to spend money
where we live.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
If you're careful about consumption, electricity sells below the cost of production.
Heavy users pay more for their lifestyle choice. |
My wife teaches on her computer and both kids use their computers for school. Throw in a tv and a few other appliances and we easily go above the
lowest range. We don't own a/c and only turned on our electric heater once. Not really a lifestyle choice here.
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https://en.www.inegi.org.mx/temas/inpc/
Inegi publishes inflation rates..,
As of January, 7 percent core inflation rate
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Lencho: I noted before you have exceptionally low power costs and was wondering how you manage it? Do you have a limited amount of solar power and
solar water heating to offset the higher costs of LPG and higher tier power rates? Passive cooling designed into your home?
Mexico has opted for a rapidly escalating cost structure beyond the very basics, and this allows poorer people to get refrigeration and minimal
lighting and charging for phones and computers. The fully luxurious lifestyles we pay pretty flat costs for up here provide the subsidies in Mexico
for the poorest out there that don't have tv's or other luxury appliances. Seems like a good system to me.
Up here my cheapest tier runs at a combined cost(including the daily minimum charge) of about 12.8 cents per kwh in Canadian Dollars, while anything
above that level runs at just over 14 cents. Hardly any reason to reduce demand as luxury items become very inexpensive to operate.
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well, thank gawd -- the beer is unchanged. all is right in the world
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho |
Grid power only, rarely use air conditioning (I grew up in Phoenix & fans work great), gas water heater & stove, no other major appliances.
I'm surprised at Bajaboy's situation-- none of what he listed are major consumers, unless his "few other appliances" happen to include large motors or
resistence elements. Pressurized water system?
I had a housemate one time who used to follow me around turning off lights because our power bill was high. One day I showed him a comparison between
the impact of using the 5,000 watt electric clothes dryer compared to leaving all the lights and other appliances turned on (he stopped worrying about
the lights and suggested a clothesline).
One of those "Kill a Watt" plug-in power meters can be illuminating, showing up problems with inefficient refrigerators, for example.
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And now with most lighting beind LED it's even less of a concern. Compressors and pumps are a huge impact, and of course any resistive heater.
We are working to install a solar system in our place that will support the AC in the day/evening. Trying to decide how much we want to scale the
battery side to see if we can carry most of the evening as well.
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