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[*] posted on 6-29-2022 at 02:24 PM
Ferry from Ensenada to San Diego


A car ferry from Ensenada to San Diego. Wouldn't that be great! Especially northbound.


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"The Ensenada to San Diego ferry could become a reality. The Baja California Government has made mobility across our ports one of its cornerstones.

The State has been quietly creating momentum for a 2 hour 15 minute journey on a ship designed for both passengers and vehicles.

The Port of Ensenada just finished an operations study and the State has embarked on a detailed feasibility study with a private infrastructure firm.

The Port of San Diego has also expressed interest in taking a serious look at the project. Key authorities have met several times. Instead of taking 3-4 hours to go from Ensenada to San Diego (1.5 hours on the highway and another 2.5 to enter Tijuana and get in line at the San Ysidro Port of Entry), travelers would get on a ferry, not stress about driving, and enjoy the scenery for a little over 2 hours, arriving at San Diego’s downtown."



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[*] posted on 6-29-2022 at 02:33 PM


2 Hrs and 15 minutes on a ship to go 60 miles is not going to happen. Who came up with this BS. More like 4 hours at best.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2022 at 02:33 PM


Interesting thought...
Obviously the cost would be an issue for many driving tourists and how would we clear customs quickly (in San Diego or upon boarding in Ensenada)?
Smooth seas only, too, I imagine.




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[*] posted on 6-29-2022 at 02:37 PM


I find it strange that they shut down the ferry that serves Santa Rosalia but think one from San Diego to Ensenada will be profitable. I hope it works out; it could be another way to enjoy Baja!



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[*] posted on 6-29-2022 at 02:38 PM


This will never happen.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2022 at 02:39 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
2 Hrs and 15 minutes on a ship to go 60 miles is not going to happen. Who came up with this BS. More like 4 hours at best.


Hmmm, I think you're right. Man, you just burst my bubble. I'd still go for it. Maybe $200. I wonder.




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[*] posted on 6-29-2022 at 02:46 PM


Some high speed ferries do up to 30 knots but loading and unloading has to be factored in. 4 hrs. sounds more realistic.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2022 at 03:15 PM


It would be interesting to see what the fare for a walk-on passenger would be. That could be a fun ride!



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[*] posted on 6-29-2022 at 03:21 PM


that's the craziest idea I heard in a long time! shuttling gamblers down to the rosarito beach hotel almost had merit...unfortunately just about the time they finished the pier indian casinos started popping up and that was the end of that!




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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 09:12 AM


Reminds me of the Escalera Nautica idea! Who dreams up these schemes?

Building a train line to Ensenada makes more sense... Perhaps one you could drive your cars onto, as well. At La Misión, it could swerve east to the Guadalupe wine area then on to Ensenada... avoiding the Salsipuedes cliffs of destruction!




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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 11:00 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Reminds me of the Escalera Nautica idea! Who dreams up these schemes?

Building a train line to Ensenada makes more sense... Perhaps one you could drive your cars onto, as well. At La Misión, it could swerve east to the Guadalupe wine area then on to Ensenada... avoiding the Salsipuedes cliffs of destruction!


Just a guess but it's probably dreamed up by those who will make money on the scheme.





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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 03:27 PM


It can't make money if it doesn't work or fails... If the government covers its cost (like wind turbines), then the big wigs and politicians will get rich in the short term, all on the backs of taxpayers.

Like the wind turbines that don't turn anymore, once the project fails there is nothing to get rich from... well, the landfill owners, maybe!




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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 03:44 PM


If I recall correctly, when they were building out the marina at La Salina, they were planning (and promising potential new residents for the new housing being built there at the time??) of a ferry out of the marina there to San Diego?

That's my recollection. Never happened.




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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 04:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  
If I recall correctly, when they were building out the marina at La Salina, they were planning (and promising potential new residents for the new housing being built there at the time??) of a ferry out of the marina there to San Diego?

That's my recollection. Never happened.


Sound vaguely familiar? Say anything to get the bucks.
I know of El Dorado Ranch (San Felipe) investing people/ home owners, were promised many things that never happened. Things from basic electricity to a private pilot's airport.




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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 04:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
It can't make money if it doesn't work or fails... If the government covers its cost (like wind turbines), then the big wigs and politicians will get rich in the short term, all on the backs of taxpayers.

Like the wind turbines that don't turn anymore, once the project fails there is nothing to get rich from... well, the landfill owners, maybe!


Where are all these failed wind energy projects you speak of?
There may be tax credits for wind farms, and that may be valid thing to debate, but not aware of many failed projects. Sometimes ice or storms damage the wind farms, but they seem to get repaired and back on line, from what I see.




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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 04:50 PM


Every time I drive by one of those bird-killing eyesores, only a few are rotating, sometimes none... many are disassembled.



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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 05:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Where are all these failed wind energy projects you speak of?
There may be tax credits for wind farms, and that may be valid thing to debate, but not aware of many failed projects. Sometimes ice or storms damage the wind farms, but they seem to get repaired and back on line, from what I see.


Wind and solar farms are the dumbest things ever. It won't work technologically, costs a fortune, and does massive damage to the environment.

If you want the cleanest energy you need to do what France did. This TED talk is from a guy who tried to make wind and solar work for decades.

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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 05:44 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  
If I recall correctly, when they were building out the marina at La Salina, they were planning (and promising potential new residents for the new housing being built there at the time??) of a ferry out of the marina there to San Diego?

That's my recollection. Never happened.


Took my boat in there years ago on a trip from SD to Ensenada. That is one of the most sketchy entrances you'll find.



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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 09:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Every time I drive by one of those bird-killing eyesores, only a few are rotating, sometimes none... many are disassembled.


When it’s windy, they turn. Unless low demand or out of order, then blades get locked down.




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[*] posted on 6-30-2022 at 09:21 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Where are all these failed wind energy projects you speak of?
There may be tax credits for wind farms, and that may be valid thing to debate, but not aware of many failed projects. Sometimes ice or storms damage the wind farms, but they seem to get repaired and back on line, from what I see.


Wind and solar farms are the dumbest things ever. It won't work technologically, costs a fortune, and does massive damage to the environment.

If you want the cleanest energy you need to do what France did. This TED talk is from a guy who tried to make wind and solar work for decades.

https://youtu.be/N-yALPEpV4w




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