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LancairDriver
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Moving from the US anytime soon?
On a recent trip down to the Mulege district a large increase in N Americans was obvious with new building and activity. The locals seem to enjoy the
business but could this have the same effect as on the mainland?
https://sputniknews.com/20220729/youre-a-f-plague-mexico-cit...
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Paco Facullo
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North Americans have a nasty habit of ruining other Countries......
[Edited on 7-29-2022 by Paco Facullo]
Since I've given up all hope, I feel much better
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SFandH
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Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  | On a recent trip down to the Mulege district a large increase in N Americans was obvious with new building and activity. The locals seem to enjoy the
business but could this have the same effect as on the mainland?
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To answer your question, YES.
But there is a recession on the horizon, and it may dissipate, but a good consequence of a recession would be a decrease in the number of people
showing up with plans to build Airbnb condos and quad/jetski rental businesses, etc. There are also developer types who build houses and put expensive
price tags on them knowing that newbie gringos will bite, which eventually raises all home prices, pricing out the locals.
I know growth means more money for the locals but growth through tourism can really eff up the vibe.
[Edited on 7-29-2022 by SFandH]
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It is a Catch-22. In many cities, tourism is vital to their existance.
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SFandH
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AFTER dependence on tourist dollars develops it's tough to live without it.
Sorta like a destructive habit.
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John Harper
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Pretty much the trajectory for most developing countries. Extractive industries and other natural resources first, then on to agriculture, and
finally tourism and land development, and add a healthy dose of corruption along the way.
Sound familiar?
John
[Edited on 7-29-2022 by John Harper]
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Don Pisto
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yes we drove up the price of everything, particularly housing ....sorry
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And what effect would that be? You mean a higher standard of living for the average Mexican who benefits from the tourist and retirees? Ask a Mexican
laborer if they would rather work for a foreigner or a wealthy Mexican and you will find out that they much prefer the foreigners who treat them with
respect, and pay them well- the wealthy Mexicans treat them like peons and are cheap as hell. Mexico is a very classist and racist society and that
has nothing to do with foreigners.
Articles like the one above are written from the point of view of privileged Mexicans in the upper strata of society. If they don't like sharing their
neighborhoods and restaurants with foreigners, they have the option of moving to a less affluent area of their city where they will not have to
encounter anyone other than working-class brown skinned people.
I can assure you that the laboring class welcomes tourism and foreigners.
I live in what used to be just a little fishing village on the west coast of the mainland. , now a destination beach town tourist trap. In the past,
locals were either fisherman or cowboys. They lived in shacks or tiny, poorly built homes, drove old broken down vehicles, if they could afford a
vehicle at all, and lived on beans and rice and tortillas apart from the food they could catch. Now they have nice homes, drive shiny new trucks, own
restaurants, golf cart rental businesses, manage properties, etc, etc. They aren't complaining about what tourism and retirees have brought their way.
Granted there are some who resent the way their town has changed, but no one forced them to sell their land to gringoes, and it's hypocritical to bite
the hand that feeds you.
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Don Pisto
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smug expats
https://news.yahoo.com/column-generation-smug-american-expat...
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I may leave usa if trump or desantis gets elected in 2024!
I cant abide fascism in the land of the free!
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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surabi
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That article makes some pretty sweeping generalizations regarding ex-pats. While there are certainly plenty like the author describes, there are also
plenty who learn Spanish, are actively involved in the community in which they live, have Mexican friends, and live quite modest lifestyles, in modest
homes. In my town, there are lots of younger, not retired expats who run businesses and are very much a part of the local Mexican community. Their
kids go to school here, some were born here, they all speak fluent Spanish, and have just as many Mexican friends as gringo friends, if not more.
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Don Pisto
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
That article makes some pretty sweeping generalizations regarding ex-pats. While there are certainly plenty like the author describes, there are also
plenty who learn Spanish, are actively involved in the community in which they live, have Mexican friends, and live quite modest lifestyles, in modest
homes. In my town, there are lots of younger, not retired expats who run businesses and are very much a part of the local Mexican community. Their
kids go to school here, some were born here, they all speak fluent Spanish, and have just as many Mexican friends as gringo friends, if not more.
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yeah I agree, this isn't really my two cents it just popped up in my news feed this morning and seemed to fit in with the topic....I do believe its
worse here an ear shot of san diego though!
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The power centers in California are waking up to the fact that a lot of the tax base is leaving. The LA Times has written several 8th grade level
rants about how Americans are creating English speaking ghettos in Mexico and pricing the locals out of the housing market. The LA Times has to my
knowledge never written anything about Spanish speaking communities comprising a large portion of those living around downtown LA! It’s concern is
touching (Not!)
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I read lots of people saying that back at the time of the 2016 election, but hardly any of them left. However, I think there will be more that will if
that scenario happens and I have actually been suggesting to liberal Americans I know that they should be seriously researching other countries to
move to before they find themselves in the midst of another N-zi Germany, which is the direction a lot of these extreme right, white wingers seem to
want it to go. Now some of their politicians are even publicly saying good things about Hitler, like he's some kind of role model- it's unbelievable,
really, and I don't put anything past them anymore. When they've come to the point of outlawing not only abortion, but access to contraception,
proposing jail sentences for a woman having an abortion, it's not a giant step to concentration camps for all non-white, non-Christians. They already
ripped immigrant toddlers from the arms of their parents and put them in cages. People who can do that are capable of any atrocity.
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I agree with everything you have said regarding this topic....
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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Don Pisto
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and great to see some knucklehead remarks removed!
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I just read this and am sorry I did. The author sounds like a real jerk. I think he is talking about retired Americans. Americans who for the most
part have worked hard for 30 years or so and have enough money to retire and live comfortably, especially in Mexico. He seems to resent that. He has a
hostile attitude, a chip on his shoulder. I bet if he sat down next to me at a bar I'd feel his bad vibe and leave. He would probably think I'm a
"gabacho" an "ugly American" as he does the Americans he's talking about.
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Most of this is Americans retiring in big cities . All the Americans I know in small cities. Our Mexican friends could care less who lives here.
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SF&H,
The general rant from the “Woke” is you can’t move to a foreign country like Mexico live in a community of others from your country, follow your
customs and speak your own language because it’s not “fair” to the locals who probably will resent it!
In other words practice what the same “Woke” call multiculturalism when groups move to the US and do the same thing!
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | SF&H,
The general rant from the “Woke” is you can’t move to a foreign country like Mexico live in a community of others from your country, follow your
customs and speak your own language because it’s not “fair” to the locals who probably will resent it!
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I disagree with your opinion that woke culture has anything to do with the subject at hand. "Woke" means being alert to racial prejudice and
discrimination. I try to be a "woke" person. I don't like the odd use of the word though.
In my opinion, the resentment the author expressed is due to the fact that the Americans moving to Mexico have enough money to live a trouble-free
lifestyle. His beef is all about money. He mentions it in one way or another throughout the article. The fact that foreigners group together and
maintain their culture is nothing new and understandable. As a "woke" person I have no objections.
Jeez, that's such a weird way to use that word.
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