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[*] posted on 12-21-2022 at 06:39 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Lance S.  
Ok so apparently a batequi is a water source that is not always available. The kind I described is one kind of batequi. It is an indigenous word but from Sinaloa.
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This sounds like what desert rats call a "coyote well"... Coyotes (and maybe other animals) can smell water that is near the surface and dig down to get a drink. In Baja, tinajas are places/ depressions that store water for long periods, after rains, and are in shadows from rocks or cliffs that helps reduce evaporation. Tinaja de Santa María (south of L.A. Bay) was where Neal Johns shared this with me. No surface water visible, but coyotes dug a pit in the sand arroyo, seeking water there.
















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[*] posted on 12-21-2022 at 09:22 AM


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Based on the paper David posted a link to, the coast live oak grow over here 29°19'13"N 114°06'25"W

I wonder if you can find the same kind of bedrock mortar milling stations associated with acorn processing farther north.

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I have seen morteros in many desert places with no oaks. I think the original peoples ground many food materials besides acorns.




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[*] posted on 12-21-2022 at 09:59 AM
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This sounds like what desert rats call a "coyote well"... Coyotes (and maybe other animals) can smell water that is near the surface and dig down to get a drink.


Coyote street, in Nevada City CA, was not named for the critter. During the gold rush days, miners would dig vertical shafts down through the overburden hoping to find gold down next to the bedrock.

They rarely bothered to fill in the shafts when they were done!





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[*] posted on 12-21-2022 at 01:24 PM


If only we could smell gold and know where to dig for it! Calling Tony Beets!



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[*] posted on 4-2-2024 at 11:02 AM


Here is a story about the name Asamblea that I never heard before. True or not it is interesting as a piece of folklore. One thing I do agree with though, San Luis is the original European name for the entire sierra and Asamblea was a location on top.

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https://www.elvigia.net/general/2022/9/20/la-sierra-la-asamb...

"The Cochimí groups that inhabited the region at that time rebelled against evangelization, so they held a meeting at the top of the mountain range that at that time was called San Luis. There, the Cochimí were attacked by a group led by Juan Nepomuceno who was in favor of the missionaries and from then on the region was also known as Sierra de La Assembly for this historical event."

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[*] posted on 4-2-2024 at 02:23 PM


Thanks Lance!

Perhaps since this thread started, I have become Facebook friends with the family member who owns Rancho San Luis. This connection came about while working on my Eliodoro Arce webpage. Eliodoro is also part of the family of San Luis.
As I recall, the original name Sierra San Luis was altered to Sierra La Asemblea by the missionaries who would 'assemble the Natives in the high meadow there'??
The Benchmark Atlas labels this mountain range as >>> Sierra La Asamblea (San Luis) <<<

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[*] posted on 4-2-2024 at 03:22 PM


Fantastic, so two variations of the same story.

Jimy Torres then speaks about the mountain range name, “The sierra is connected by corridors between the mission of San Borja, and to the north, with Calamajué. Now it is very common for many people to call the Sierra de San Luis as the Sierra de la Asamblea, but the first name is Sierra de San Luis. Later they named it the Sierra de la Asamblea. A little higher up to the north, it is assumed that the old Cochimí Natives used to meet in that part. They revealed themselves to the evangelization by the Spaniards, which is why they called it 'The Assembly'.”

So where exactly is Asamblea and does it have water available year round?
Does Jimmy Torres know anything about Rancho Santa Ana? (The one at or near Aqua de Higuera on the Camino real)

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[*] posted on 4-2-2024 at 05:22 PM


Where did you pull that conversation from, my Facebook exchange with Jimy? Very good! I will ask him about Santa Ana, which appears on plenty of maps over the years. I have never seen it (Santa Ana) myself and since Howard Gulick never included it on his maps or road logs, I will assume it ceased to exist before 1956??



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