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Mexico Tightens Ban on Smoking in Public
What MX needs. More stupid, non-enforceable laws. One Morse way for dirty cops to shake down unsuspecting, gringo smokers.
Beaches?
[Edited on 1-16-2023 by Lee]
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So trucks are allowed to belch out diesel fumes and people burn plastic in their yards, but cops are going to be walking up and down the beaches
busting people for smoking a cigarette?
Although I'm a smoker myself, I'm all for stop smoking incentives- it's an insidious addiction and I hate to see young people start smoking. Bans on
indoor smoking in public places is absolutely reasonable- I don't even light up at an outside restaurant table- I get up and walk a bit down the
street so I'm not near anyone dining.
But banning smoking outdoors (unless it's on a school playground or right near other people who aren't smoking), is absurd when there are so many
other sources of air pollution that nothing is done about.
[Edited on 1-16-2023 by surabi]
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Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  | Good news....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-64279351
Mexico has brought into force one of the world's strictest anti-tobacco laws by enacting a total ban on smoking in public places.
The step, which was first approved in 2021, also includes a ban on tobacco advertising.
Several other Latin American countries have also passed legislation to create smoke-free public spaces.
However, Mexico's legislation is considered to be the most robust and wide-ranging in the Americas.
It amounts to one of the most stringent anti-smoking laws in the world. Mexico's existing 2008 law - which created smoke-free spaces in bars,
restaurants and workplaces - is now extended to an outright ban in all public spaces. That includes parks, beaches, hotels, offices and restaurants.
There will also be a total ban on the advertising, promotion and sponsorship of tobacco products, meaning that cigarettes cannot even be on show
inside shops.
Vapes and e-cigarettes are also subject to tighter new restrictions, particularly indoors.
The Pan American Health Organisation has welcomed the step and applauded the Mexican government for implementing the ban.
The organisation says that tobacco use is the single most preventable cause of death in the world, responsible for nearly a million deaths in the
Americas each year, either through direct consumption or exposure to second-hand smoke.
However, some smokers are dismayed at the draconian nature of the new law.
In essence, it means that many will only be allowed to smoke in their homes or other private residences.
Others have raised questions about the practicalities of enforcing the law.
With police corruption so rampant in Mexico, many fear that rather than issuing real fines or punishments for smoking in public, some officers will
use it as a pretext for taking bribes. |
Excellent news.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | ...cops are going to be walking up and down the beaches busting people for smoking a cigarette?
Although I'm a smoker myself, I'm all for stop smoking incentives- it's an insidious addiction and I hate to see young people start smoking. Bans on
indoor smoking in public places is absolutely reasonable- I don't even light up at an outside restaurant table- I get up and walk a bit down the
street so I'm not near anyone dining.
But banning smoking outdoors (unless it's on a school playground or right near other people who aren't smoking, is absurd when there are so many
other sources of air pollution that nothing is done about. |
Smoking is a dirty habit, I can only imagine your teeth and breath, yuck.
[Edited on 1-16-2023 by JZ]
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No worries, JZ, I would never get close enough to you for that to be an issue.
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The thing that really drove home the concept of addiction for me was seeing patients with terminal respiratory diseases sitting outside of longterm
care facilities with an Oxygen mask in one hand and a cigarette in the other!
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S,
Usually the Canadian is the smoker in Mexico not Gringos!
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And you addressed that non-sequitor to me because....?
And have you done a study to back up that statement?
FYI an estimated 10.3% of Canadians are cigarette smokers, and estimated 12.5% of Americans according actual studies.
[Edited on 1-17-2023 by surabi]
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 thats a BOLD statement!
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Haven't you guys ever noticed that many Mexicans smoke?
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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I guess Canadians don't count as gringo's?
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No, actually, they don't. Gringo is often thought to mean foreigner, particularly Americans and Canadians, but primarily by foreigners.
Mexicans have told me that the term gringo specifically refers to Americans and that Canadians are not gringos.
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S,
The term “Gringo” as used in Mexico is applied to Americans from the US. We were taught that it was a corruption of “green grows”. Words from
a marching song sung by some of the US soldiers in Mexican War.
It turns out that the word originally comes from the Greek word for person and was variously used in Latin America prior to the Mexican War to define
foreigners, mostly with European features.
So the LAUSD strikes again. Did you know that only birds fly? Bats are mammals which glide not fly! (Also Wrong!)
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L,
I misunderstood. It most likely comes from Spanish for Greek.
From whckopedia - “ The most likely theory is that it originates from griego ('Greek'), used in the same way as the English phrase "it's Greek to
me".[3][10] Spanish is known to have used Greek as a stand-in for incomprehensibility, though now less common, such as in the phrase hablar en griego
(lit. 'to speak Greek'). The 1817 Nuevo diccionario francés-español, for example, gives gringo and griego as synonyms in this context:[11]
... hablar en griego, en guirigay, en gringo.
Gringo, griego: aplícase a lo que se dice o escribe sin entenderse.
... to speak in Greek, in gibberish, in gringo.
Gringo, Greek : applied to what is said or written but not understood.”
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The term "Gringo", for your consideration!
In 1959 my family did a three month trip to mainland Mexico. I was 12 at the time, but some of the memories from that trip stand out more than most
of the ones I have from recent trips.
I don't remember which town was our first real rest stop, but I am sure it was within a day's drive south of Nogales. The hotel owner spoke great
English, and spent quite a bit of time chatting with our family.
One thing I remember is that he had a picture of Pancho Villa hanging in the lobby, and considered him a hero. The other is his explanation of the
term "Gringo"
According to him, it was because Pershing's troops that were fighting Pancho Villa wore green uniforms, and were unwelcome by the non-combatant
civilians. According to our host they would shout "Green go!", as in go away!
I doubt that it was an accurate account, but it was believable for my twelve year old self!
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SMOKING & DRONES
FROM THE GAZETTE
SMOKING
New Mexican smoking laws via Gringo Gazette: And it’s really tough now. As of January 15, it is forbidden to smoke in Restaurants, (even outdoors),
Malls, Private ballrooms, Beaches, Parks, Sports stadiums, Movie theaters, theaters, live concerts, amusement parks, hotels, schools, workplaces,
government offices, medical facilities and public transportations. If you are in a restaurant and go out to smoke, you must be 10 yards away from the
entrance and ventilation equipment. You are stuck to smoking at private properties like your home or your friends’. Last but not least, packs of
cigarettes for sale must not be visible, so store chains like OXXO have covered them with black curtains.
DRONES...
NEEDS TO BE VERIFIED..
foreigners are not allowed to fjy drones in Mexico. Anyone found guilty would be under federal jurisdiction and carry an heavy sentence. –
jebeddy2012@hotmail.com
bien salud,
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