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[*] posted on 1-27-2023 at 06:23 PM
Guadalupe Canyon


Mi yerno wants to take my daughter and their two boys down to Guadalupe Canyon. Any word on when it’s expected to open? Camping fees? Road condition? Gracias.



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[*] posted on 1-28-2023 at 07:54 AM


Hi Paul, let me share some links to the canyon for you and anyone else interested. Personally, I have not camped there since late 2008. The family members who ran the campsites on the south side of the canyon, and also the source spring, above Arturo's Campo #1 (with all the nice private campsites), forced Arturo to close his side. I suspect jealousy... as Arturo's always had business and they wanted it. Arturo was getting pretty old and his wife wasn't well... so not too much of a debate. Everything ends at some point, right?

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2022-2023 season rates: http://www.guadalupecanyonoasis.com/Rates.html

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I recently wrote about the canyon, for the Baja Bound Bulletin: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/guadalup...

To answer you messaged question as to where on VivaBaja.com I have info on the canyon, click this listed link on my main page: CLICK HERE for more Links to interesting Baja California sites

On that page, see this list:
Specific Baja Locations
Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs
The Official San Felipe, Baja California, (last active in 2021)
San Felipe Tide Times
San Felipe Tide Charts
Puertecitos Tide Times
Puertecitos Tide Charts
Bahía de los Angeles Tide Times
San Quintín Tide Times
Bahía Santa María (Playa Hermosa) weather station
Nuevo Mazatlan, past and present
Baja's Observatory web page
etc.

Then, I also have this link on the main page:
CLICK HERE to quickly find photos of specific Baja locations (1999-2022)!
In the first group of links there, you will see this:
50 miles or less from U.S./ Mexico Border
Valle de las Palmas to Cantamar
Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs ’01
Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs ’05
Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs Jan.’08
Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs Oct.’08
Sulfur Mine near Mexicali 2001
Sulfur Mine near Mexicali 2017
Pyramid Resort, La Misión
Laguna Hanson, Sierra Juárez 2018
Pole Line Road

My own personal Guadalupe Canyon camping trip photos were from 2001 through 2008... on VivaBaja.com, scroll way down until you see these links:

My Baja California Travel and Camping Photos (1965-2022):
1965-1999 Photos “David K’s Old Baja Photo Album”
1999 – 2004 Baja Trip Photo Albums (28 albums)
2005 – 2007 Baja Trip Photo Albums (28 albums)
2008-2010 Baja Trip Photo Albums (15 albums)

Here are the photo albums for Guadalupe Canyon trips (there were other trips there, as well as these):

Nov. ’01 BBBB-2 GUADALUPE CANYON
Apr. ’05: Guadalupe Canyon trip
Nov.’05: Guadalupe Canyon (canyon entrance scenes)
Sept.,’06: Guadalupe Canyon Weekend
Jan. ’08: Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs and La Vibora Canyon Petroglyphs
Oct. ’08:Guadalupe Canyon for Halloween



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[*] posted on 1-28-2023 at 03:39 PM


The left side of the canyon, as you are driving in, remains closed due to tropical storm Kay on October 10,2022. Ernesto Loya passed away in 2022, DEP. His family is still working on repairs to reopen their side of the canyon.
The right side of the canyon is Arturo's side, and I believe Mario's further upstream. It was closed for a couple months, but reopened. At first it required 4WD to get there through the newly deposited deep sand. I'm not up to date this month about the condition of the road.
Weekends and holidays get crowded, with reservations needed. If you can arrange for mid-week, you will likely not need a reservation and have a more tranquil experience.
Upon entering the canyon, you will turn right at this sign:



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[*] posted on 2-1-2023 at 11:12 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Maderita  
The left side of the canyon, as you are driving in, remains closed due to tropical storm Kay on October 10,2022. Ernesto Loya passed away in 2022, DEP. His family is still working on repairs to reopen their side of the canyon.
The right side of the canyon is Arturo's side, and I believe Mario's further upstream. It was closed for a couple months, but reopened. At first it required 4WD to get there through the newly deposited deep sand. I'm not up to date this month about the condition of the road.
Weekends and holidays get crowded, with reservations needed. If you can arrange for mid-week, you will likely not need a reservation and have a more tranquil experience.
Upon entering the canyon, you will turn right at this sign:


It has been several years since Arturo was in the canyon... and I would bet he has left us for that other oasis, in the sky. His son-in-law 'Canyonman Rob' and daughter, Isabela, stopped arranging tour trips and the campground's website was taken down.

Ernesto (?) or another brother or nephew, had forced Arturo to abandon his side (Campo #1) by shutting off the hot water pipe, from the source spring, above/ outside of Arturo's property. This was late 2008 or 2009, (I think). Arturo was old, his wife was ill, and his helper son (who maintained the campsites between campers use) 'Rigo,' was mentally challenged (and blamed for starting one of the fires that burned the palms and some palapas).

The other campsites were never as nice or as private as Arturo's (that were originally begun and made by John Nelson with his son Jordan, later help came from a friend Steve Schott, and Canyonman Rob).

A couple-few years ago, some of those nice campsites of Arturo's were reopened by the relatives from across the canyon... and we see them included on the reservations list and the map that once was on the original website, but instead of Arturo's Campo 1 at the top of the map, they edited to name Arturo's dad, Don José Campo 1!

With help from Jordan Nelson (who is on Nomad and shared a video of hiking up the canyon post Hurricane Kay, Sept 2022: https://youtu.be/0WTvbhxT3bo ) and Steve Schott (Hotschott on Nomad, 12 + years ago) I made history article: https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/guadalup...




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[*] posted on 2-4-2023 at 07:45 AM


Paul, did you get a chance to check these replies?



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[*] posted on 2-4-2023 at 08:05 AM


¡Si Señor, mil gracias! I forwarded the info to mi yerno.

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