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[*] posted on 1-31-2023 at 06:21 AM


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Lacy, yes.

You guys are really good today!!

TW, that's what was left of the Flying Sportsman Lodge pier, made famous on the cover of Ray Cannon's 1966 book, Sea of Cortez.



can you post a copy of the page about Flying Sportsmen Lodge airport in the Senterfitt book? Would like to figure out the direction.


Of course!
I was surprised it was not in the 1972 edition, but by then the municipal airport, south of town, was paved, nearby the resort.

In the 1969 edition pages (some were included in my 1972 edition), the municipal dirt airport was north of town and had already closed the Flying Sportsman runway.

So, we go to the 1967 edition to see the original runway, just south of the resort, and parallel to the coast, more or less...

Note the pier near the top of the photo, as it was directly in front of the Lodge. The white arrows point out the ends of the runway, mid-lower right of image close to the shoreline...



Will you show on Google Earth where the runway would be, today?




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[*] posted on 1-31-2023 at 11:06 AM


Here is the history of Molino de Lacy (originally named Molino de San Francisquito), near Puerto de San Francisquito (what today we call Punta Final Resort): William Lacy Story (Molino de Lacy founder)





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[*] posted on 1-31-2023 at 03:34 PM


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Will you show on Google Earth where the runway would be, today?


working on it

can you please show the page for the old municipal Loreto airport?




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[*] posted on 1-31-2023 at 03:54 PM


You bet!





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[*] posted on 2-1-2023 at 06:01 PM


Perhaps here?

loreto.jpg - 215kB

Screen Shot 2023-02-01 at 4.59.24 PM.jpg - 145kB




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[*] posted on 2-1-2023 at 08:46 PM


Looks good to me!
I wonder if Harald is able to plot the other one?




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[*] posted on 2-1-2023 at 09:20 PM


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Perhaps here?





nope - here:



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[Edited on 2-2-2023 by 4x4abc]




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[*] posted on 2-1-2023 at 10:05 PM


OK - Flying Sportsmen airstrip

I used the oldest 2006 Google Earth image first
the 1967 Senterfitt Baja map shows the airstrip at 20 - 28 (200 degrees north)
could not find the length, but the layout below should be pretty close with 1,650 ft

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with the more current Google Earth image it looks like this:

now.jpg - 270kB




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[*] posted on 2-1-2023 at 11:19 PM


the old Loreto Municipal airport was difficult
at least I had the length of 4,224 ft and the aerial image

here is how it would look like today
notice another smaller airstrip to the left
it's on the topo maps, but I don't know its purpose

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and here are all 4 former and present airfields together:

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[*] posted on 2-2-2023 at 01:35 AM


Looking at these images, I just realized, of all the times I've been out on a boat around Loreto I've never seen a plane coming in to land.





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[*] posted on 2-2-2023 at 06:59 AM


Great work Harald!

The Flying Sportsmen's runway length is given, in tiny text, on the left side of the runway diagram.

Also, each runway is shown on the Senterfitt map of 1967 (click twice for super-zoom): 1967 Airports of Baja Map

Both Loreto airports are shown. The first number for an airport is the elevation (feet). The second number is the runway length (in 100s of feet). It shows the Flying Sportsmen as 20---28 (20 feet ASL, 2800 ft. runway.




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[*] posted on 2-2-2023 at 08:36 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Great work Harald!

The Flying Sportsmen's runway length is given, in tiny text, on the left side of the runway diagram.



the resolution on BajaNomad does not allow for any detection of small numbers




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[*] posted on 2-2-2023 at 09:14 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Looking at these images, I just realized, of all the times I've been out on a boat around Loreto I've never seen a plane coming in to land.


Sundays usually around midday are a good time for that. The beach at the SE end of the runway is where we usually run our dog and they come in directly over us. The bird-bangers start going off, my dog freaks and you know a plane is coming in shortly.
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[*] posted on 2-2-2023 at 09:56 AM


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Great work Harald!

The Flying Sportsmen's runway length is given, in tiny text, on the left side of the runway diagram.



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Not a problem... see below.
In following editions, Arnold made the text much bigger! I can't imagine while flying, trying to read those figures! HA!!

here you go:


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Here's the plane Ed Tabor landed there, full of fishermen from the U.S.:



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[*] posted on 2-2-2023 at 05:36 PM


as soon as I saw the name Ed Tabor I thought:

CaƱon Tabor
Cerro Tabor
Sierra Tabor

the guy wasn't only flying around

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[*] posted on 2-3-2023 at 07:28 AM


His impact on Loreto becoming a destination was HUGE!
I think my dad flew down with him at least twice, before we began driving down, in 1965.




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