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RFK Jr. and Guerrero Negro & Punta Abreojos
While doing a Google search for Baja lighthouse photos, I came across this link from an article posted just five days ago. It is actually old news, I
think, but being a new article [that surprisingly didn't have an appearance here on Nomad], I thought it may inspire conversation.
For your interests:
https://www.cityweekly.net/utah/trojan-horse/Content?oid=201...
Some parts of the article:
More to the point of this article, I was on track to log 30 consecutive years of journeys throughout Baja California in Mexico with family and
friends. This led to research and interviews with advocates, scientists, politicians, environmentalists and ordinary Mexicans steeped in the fabled
leviathan, culminating in an award-winning series.
But what I witnessed of RFK Jr.—or "Bobby"—in Baja during a struggle over the fate of Mexico's charming gray whales was alarming.
It was all based on lies. The whales were in no danger from salt.
The endangered were actually those who resided in the threadbare Mexican village of Punta Abreojos. As recounted by our journalist, Susan Goldsmith,
this is the scope of that village—at the end of a 37-mile dirt road, there is one phone in the tiny community. When it rings, the person who answers
it leans out of the door and yells there is a call for so-and-so.
Robert Kennedy Jr. and the NRDC vigorously courted the villagers' support. Kennedy reportedly dove for abalone with the locals. And the villagers were
promised "green" jobs to replace the salt plant jobs they were about to lose.
Kennedy and NRDC hatched a scheme to vastly expand the villages' modest harvesting of an oyster hatchery. But neither Kennedy nor the honchos at NRDC
are watermen ... unless you count yachting. Someone thought the new oyster operation should have solar/wind-generated power. And probably there would
be excess power for the community of Punta Abreojos.
Click the link to read the full article. https://www.cityweekly.net/utah/trojan-horse/Content?oid=201...
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | The endangered were actually those who resided in the threadbare Mexican village of Punta Abreojos. As recounted by our journalist, Susan Goldsmith,
this is the scope of that village—at the end of a 37-mile dirt road, there is one phone in the tiny community. When it rings, the person who answers
it leans out of the door and yells there is a call for so-and-so.
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Who owns the sole telephone in Punta abreojos?
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It's disturbing to watch the media act as a propaganda wing of a political party and do endless smear jobs on people.
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They want to force this guy to get the vax?? He could help this country and Mexico.
[Edited on 6-27-2023 by JZ]
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"This isn't a political rant, but there is an interesting part of the article about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his meddling in Baja California Sur
environmental issues."
https://www.cityweekly.net/utah/trojan-horse/Content...
thank you Charles Levitin.....you were probably researching baja lighthouses also! 
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In trying to avoid a tope, I suspect this thread will soon swerve into an off-topic lane.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | The endangered were actually those who resided in the threadbare Mexican village of Punta Abreojos. As recounted by our journalist, Susan Goldsmith,
this is the scope of that village—at the end of a 37-mile dirt road, there is one phone in the tiny community. When it rings, the person who answers
it leans out of the door and yells there is a call for so-and-so.
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Who owns the sole telephone in Punta abreojos?
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I didn't write the article... Wasn't that clear?
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What an odd article.
There is no ONE phone since everyone has a cell phone nowadays. Even when we arrived in the scene 16 years ago, there were many landlines in both
Abre and La Bocana.
I believe the salt mine was going to be in the Laguna de San Ignacio which is where the whales are as well, not Abre.
Residents of Punta Abreojos are quite wealthy and can afford to send their kids to college, just like those in La Bocana. The kids parent's in my
college scholarship program were not the local cooperative members but the bricklayers, painters etc.
Very strange article indeed.
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So, in 2001 Abreojos had one telephone? The author clearly has some kind of personal vendetta against towards RFK Jr. in particular or against
"political dynasties" in general.
Such a tragedy that Mitsubishi did not swoop in and save the poor backward Mexicans with 200 well-paying jobs. The industrialization / destruction of
their pristine desert environment for offshore corporate profits would have been good for them. (Sarcasm)
Good job RFK Jr!
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For those that don't know about Mitsubishi's failed (halted) plans to build the largest salt works in the world at Laguna San Ignacio, here's an
article published in 2000 written by the International Fund for Animal Welfare.
https://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0300/et0300s8.html
A snippet:
"More than a million people wrote to Mitsubishi to protest the salt plant. More than 40 California cities passed resolutions against the proposed
project and fifteen mutual funds played a critical role in persuading Mitsubishi to cancel the plant. More than 30 leading scientists and a coalition
of environmental organizations, including more than 50 in Mexico, have shown that a united effort can produce this sort of landmark result. "
[Edited on 6-27-2023 by SFandH]
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The proposed salt plant created the ultimate NGO/political/fund raising/membership increasing/scientific coalition/environmental awareness occurrence
in years, if not, ever since. IMO, some played it to garner millions for its organization, by using the whales to focus the publics' sentiments to
their advantage. The following is by Lacey as well - in 2001. Now, in hindsight, can Lacey say that the outcome was wrong? Apparently, he can't let
go, and is using it to smear RFKJr.
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/crying-whale-6413826?sh...
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| Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | The proposed salt plant created the ultimate NGO/political/fund raising/membership increasing/scientific coalition/environmental awareness occurrence
in years, if not, ever since. IMO, some played it to garner millions for its organization, by using the whales to focus the publics' sentiments to
their advantage. The following is by Lacey as well - in 2001. Now, in hindsight, can Lacey say that the outcome was wrong? Apparently, he can't let
go, and is using it to smear RFKJr.
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/crying-whale-6413826?sh...
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lets take a look at michael lacey......
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-investiga...
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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[Edited on 6-27-2023 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | The proposed salt plant created the ultimate NGO/political/fund raising/membership increasing/scientific coalition/environmental awareness occurrence
in years, if not, ever since. IMO, some played it to garner millions for its organization, by using the whales to focus the publics' sentiments to
their advantage. The following is by Lacey as well - in 2001. Now, in hindsight, can Lacey say that the outcome was wrong? Apparently, he can't let
go, and is using it to smear RFKJr.
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/crying-whale-6413826?sh...
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never understood the logic of expanding salt production to san ignacio lagoon when there is plenty of low elevation flat land for expansion adjacent
to existing GN salt facility.
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| Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | The proposed salt plant created the ultimate NGO/political/fund raising/membership increasing/scientific coalition/environmental awareness occurrence
in years, if not, ever since. IMO, some played it to garner millions for its organization, by using the whales to focus the publics' sentiments to
their advantage. The following is by Lacey as well - in 2001. Now, in hindsight, can Lacey say that the outcome was wrong? Apparently, he can't let
go, and is using it to smear RFKJr.
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/crying-whale-6413826?sh...
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" ....the milelong pier that ESSA proposed just off the village of Punta Abreojos ..."
This is what the fishing coops in Abreojos were afraid of. The pier as planned would have gone thru some of their abalone and lobster fishing grounds.
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Why are you all ok with this guy and hundreds/thousands of others attacking RFK Jr.?
The mainstream media isn't reporting the news. They are activists influencing elections with biased reporting.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Why are you all ok with this guy and hundreds/thousands of others attacking RFK Jr.? |
Half pint,
RFK Jr is a big boy and can defend himself from journalists and pseudo-journalists.
RFK Jr is a loopy vaccine conspiracy theorist. I am sure you find his anti-vax conspiracy theories and whacky science appealing, eh?
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Why are you all ok with this guy and hundreds/thousands of others attacking RFK Jr.? |
Half pint,
RFK Jr is a big boy and can defend himself from journalists and pseudo-journalists.
RFK Jr is a loopy vaccine conspiracy theorist. I am sure you find his anti-vax conspiracy theories and whacky science appealing, eh?
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Whacky is a pretty selective term you are using against RFK Jr. but not all the others from the same party who talk whacky every day! So, I presume
you are for (a President) Kamala instead of Kennedy? It's going to be fun, I predict!
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Why are you all ok with this guy and hundreds/thousands of others attacking RFK Jr.? |
Half pint,
RFK Jr is a big boy and can defend himself from journalists and pseudo-journalists.
RFK Jr is a loopy vaccine conspiracy theorist. I am sure you find his anti-vax conspiracy theories and whacky science appealing, eh?
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Whacky is a pretty selective term you are using against RFK Jr. but not all the others from the same party who talk whacky every day! So, I presume
you are for (a President) Kamala instead of Kennedy? It's going to be fun, I predict! |
Re your comments on "whacky,"... I don't think you are privy to what terms I use to describe particular democrat politicians,... I do think "whacky"
is a good term to describe your politics
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I was going to make a political post but this thread is in the Baja politics forum. It should be OFF TOPIC.
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