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[*] posted on 3-16-2024 at 11:44 AM


For standard lane:
Enter Ready and be transitioned to the far right at/near the US border.
Best to approach from the west until construction is complete.

For Sentri no change

For Ready no change, just be sure you don't get transitioned to teh far right.
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[*] posted on 7-1-2024 at 10:07 AM


My last trip north I got to the Mexical East crossing at 8:15pm. It closed at 8pm. No mention of this on the US border website.
Had to reroute to west crossing and got shook down my local cops TWICE. F those guys. I'm so tired of the corruption down there.
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[*] posted on 7-1-2024 at 10:39 AM


Quote: Originally posted by baja-chris  
My last trip north I got to the Mexical East crossing at 8:15pm. It closed at 8pm. No mention of this on the US border website.
Had to reroute to west crossing and got shook down my local cops TWICE. F those guys. I'm so tired of the corruption down there.


2x in under 5 miles is a definite bummer
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[*] posted on 7-1-2024 at 06:46 PM


First one got nothing after 30 minutes.
Second one got $38 after 45 minutes.
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[*] posted on 7-1-2024 at 08:19 PM
2x shake down


I'm trying to imagine getting lit up twice going from the East crossing to the West crossing. Pretty much a one way street along the fence. Short of speeding/cel/seatbelt/lights....... what happened?
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[*] posted on 7-2-2024 at 07:25 AM


First one was speeding. I was in center lane going speed limit or within a few mph of it and getting passed on both sides by much faster traffic.

Second one was a lane change/merge as we approached the west crossing about 2 miles after the first stop. Different cop. Perhaps they talked on radio. I was towing a flatbed with expensive truck on it.

Its not really the time nor the money. It just the corruption that bugs me which is why I did not pay the first one but after 45 min on the second one they wore me down and I gave them $38. I was shocked they wasted so much time on me. Guess they were convinced I'd eventually start peeling off $100 bills. Wrong.
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[*] posted on 7-2-2024 at 07:39 AM


Going forward I'll only cross north in the morning and only the East crossing or Algodones. Mid-day seems to work well for me at either of those going south.

I do wonder if I would have been pulled over if I was in the right lane and stayed 5 under the limit.

I've been pulled over many times in the last 35 years but in almost all cases I deserved it. Speeding, slow rolling a stop sign, etc. But this time I really did not think I deserved it. I probably get stopped once every 2 or 3 years and that is with lots of time down there. I own a house in SF, have permanent residency, etc. Have towed up and down peninsula dozens of times. Basically I'm not new.
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[*] posted on 7-2-2024 at 07:56 AM


When stopped, Start video on phone, tell cops they are on facebook live. They back down faster. They will tell you to turn off the video. Tell them no, you are an influencer, and scared, so want protection of live video saved to cloud.

It’s all a game to the cops, you need to play a better game.

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[*] posted on 7-2-2024 at 08:33 AM


Quote: Originally posted by baja-chris  
First one was speeding. I was in center lane going speed limit or within a few mph of it and getting passed on both sides by much faster traffic.

Second one was a lane change/merge as we approached the west crossing about 2 miles after the first stop. Different cop. Perhaps they talked on radio. I was towing a flatbed with expensive truck on it.

Its not really the time nor the money. It just the corruption that bugs me which is why I did not pay the first one but after 45 min on the second one they wore me down and I gave them $38. I was shocked they wasted so much time on me. Guess they were convinced I'd eventually start peeling off $100 bills. Wrong.


In the future or for Nomads reading this...
Rather than play their game, insist on going to the station!
If you did violate the law, the fines in Mexico are small.
If you are innocent, they will leave you alone for easier prey.
They may ask that you follow them to the station, but then pull over and give you your license back. They will not take you to the station if you are innocent, since you will tell the judge how the officer attempted to extort cash from you.
It is illegal for a cop to accept money!!
They know Americans are fearful of Mexican jails, etc., and have that fear edge. They also know Americans are in a hurry and will pay to end the game.
*Don't be in a hurry and don't play... Insist on going to the station and seeing the judge.




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[*] posted on 7-2-2024 at 08:59 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by baja-chris  
First one was speeding. I was in center lane going speed limit or within a few mph of it and getting passed on both sides by much faster traffic.

Second one was a lane change/merge as we approached the west crossing about 2 miles after the first stop. Different cop. Perhaps they talked on radio. I was towing a flatbed with expensive truck on it.

Its not really the time nor the money. It just the corruption that bugs me which is why I did not pay the first one but after 45 min on the second one they wore me down and I gave them $38. I was shocked they wasted so much time on me. Guess they were convinced I'd eventually start peeling off $100 bills. Wrong.


In the future or for Nomads reading this...
Rather than play their game, insist on going to the station!
If you did violate the law, the fines in Mexico are small.
If you are innocent, they will leave you alone for easier prey.
They may ask that you follow them to the station, but then pull over and give you your license back. They will not take you to the station if you are innocent, since you will tell the judge how the officer attempted to extort cash from you.
It is illegal for a cop to accept money!!
They know Americans are fearful of Mexican jails, etc., and have that fear edge. They also know Americans are in a hurry and will pay to end the game.
*Don't be in a hurry and don't play... Insist on going to the station and seeing the judge.


Opposite POV here.

DON'T GO TO ANY POLICE STATION!

I'm guessing Dave missed the post recently about what happened at the police station. Thinking because you did nothing illegal and are innocent will get you off with a reprimand. Wrong.

I've written about this before, 2nd hand info from a friend who went to the station in Ciudad. Didn't turn out well for him.

A scam is a scam and if stopped on the street, trust that you will be scammed at the station. Not necessarily 100% of the time. Going to the station means you trust the police and the justice system where ever you are. To me, that's naive.

The ''Judge'' at the station might be the janitor, another corrupt cop. There is no REAL judge at the station to administer justice. It's all a scam.

Negotiate on the street and don't waste a lot of time.

Geeze. What bullshlt! ''If you are innocent, they'll leave you alone." Stop with the bogus advice Dave!




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[*] posted on 7-2-2024 at 09:05 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by baja-chris  
First one was speeding. I was in center lane going speed limit or within a few mph of it and getting passed on both sides by much faster traffic.

Second one was a lane change/merge as we approached the west crossing about 2 miles after the first stop. Different cop. Perhaps they talked on radio. I was towing a flatbed with expensive truck on it.

Its not really the time nor the money. It just the corruption that bugs me which is why I did not pay the first one but after 45 min on the second one they wore me down and I gave them $38. I was shocked they wasted so much time on me. Guess they were convinced I'd eventually start peeling off $100 bills. Wrong.


In the future or for Nomads reading this...
Rather than play their game, insist on going to the station!
If you did violate the law, the fines in Mexico are small.
If you are innocent, they will leave you alone for easier prey.
They may ask that you follow them to the station, but then pull over and give you your license back. They will not take you to the station if you are innocent, since you will tell the judge how the officer attempted to extort cash from you.
It is illegal for a cop to accept money!!
They know Americans are fearful of Mexican jails, etc., and have that fear edge. They also know Americans are in a hurry and will pay to end the game.
*Don't be in a hurry and don't play... Insist on going to the station and seeing the judge.


That may work most of the time, but there are cops that will oblige your request to go to the station. Once there, you may be greeted by more of the same. Don't count on the police commander or the judge to be a beacon of honesty and integrity.

There is no way to predict how a police stop in Mexico will end but dont make the mistake of thinking you are in control of it. You aint!
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[*] posted on 7-2-2024 at 09:07 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Lee  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by baja-chris  
First one was speeding. I was in center lane going speed limit or within a few mph of it and getting passed on both sides by much faster traffic.

Second one was a lane change/merge as we approached the west crossing about 2 miles after the first stop. Different cop. Perhaps they talked on radio. I was towing a flatbed with expensive truck on it.

Its not really the time nor the money. It just the corruption that bugs me which is why I did not pay the first one but after 45 min on the second one they wore me down and I gave them $38. I was shocked they wasted so much time on me. Guess they were convinced I'd eventually start peeling off $100 bills. Wrong.


In the future or for Nomads reading this...
Rather than play their game, insist on going to the station!
If you did violate the law, the fines in Mexico are small.
If you are innocent, they will leave you alone for easier prey.
They may ask that you follow them to the station, but then pull over and give you your license back. They will not take you to the station if you are innocent, since you will tell the judge how the officer attempted to extort cash from you.
It is illegal for a cop to accept money!!
They know Americans are fearful of Mexican jails, etc., and have that fear edge. They also know Americans are in a hurry and will pay to end the game.
*Don't be in a hurry and don't play... Insist on going to the station and seeing the judge.


Opposite POV here.

DON'T GO TO ANY POLICE STATION!

I'm guessing Dave missed the post recently about what happened at the police station. Thinking because you did nothing illegal and are innocent will get you off with a reprimand. Wrong.

I've written about this before, 2nd hand info from a friend who went to the station in Ciudad. Didn't turn out well for him.

A scam is a scam and if stopped on the street, trust that you will be scammed at the station. Not necessarily 100% of the time. Going to the station means you trust the police and the justice system where ever you are. To me, that's naive.

The ''Judge'' at the station might be the janitor, another corrupt cop. There is no REAL judge at the station to administer justice. It's all a scam.

Negotiate on the street and don't waste a lot of time.

Geeze. What bullshlt! ''If you are innocent, they'll leave you alone." Stop with the bogus advice Dave!


Yes, good points
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[*] posted on 7-2-2024 at 01:22 PM


Not bogus at all...
2nd hand story may be true in Constitución.

The post was about a border city (Mexicali), was it not?
Sure, negotiate with the cop if you can... and show friendliness, honesty, apologetic, and none of your America superiority BS.

In my 50 years of driving in Mexico, I have a few stories, and have never been burned by a cop when I negotiated myself out of a bogus traffic stop. They all make good fireside stories, too.




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[*] posted on 7-2-2024 at 02:16 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Not bogus at all...
2nd hand story may be true in Constitución.

The post was about a border city (Mexicali), was it not?
Sure, negotiate with the cop if you can... and show friendliness, honesty, apologetic, and none of your America superiority BS.

In my 50 years of driving in Mexico, I have a few stories, and have never been burned by a cop when I negotiated myself out of a bogus traffic stop. They all make good fireside stories, too.


They all make for a good story afterwards
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[*] posted on 7-3-2024 at 09:35 AM
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Inferaction fines are not that cheap anymore as in the past. Unless you are being totally hosed, you won't save much if any going for a ride. When I'm driving with a target on my back (fancy vehicule, towing boat etc.) I always use turn signals, exaggerated stops at Altos, and below the ridiculously low posted speed limits. Sad to know that we are being watched with only the idea of finding a reason (real or not) to pull us over.

Some traffic laws are different than in the USA. Example: A tail light out is not a fix-it ticket. There is a specific fine associated for it.
I also know the traffic laws apply to me, not so much the local speeding by me taking on the cel phone with no seat belt on as he rolls the Alto, with his kid on wifes lap, drivers windows so tinted you can't see inside, loose dog ,tail/turn lights broken, and no licence plate. Blind eye given because his wallet isn't as full as ours.





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