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[*] posted on 4-13-2005 at 12:41 AM
Loreto Bay Company Donates $1 Million to Benefit the Town of Loreto


http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/April2005/12/c4812.htm...

LORETO BAY, BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR, Mexico, April 12 /CNW/ -- The
Loreto Bay Company donated $1 million to the Loreto Bay Foundation during
Tianguis Turistico 2005, Latin America's most important tourism trade show
that drives the marketing for Mexican tourism. Loreto Bay is partnering with
FONATUR, Mexico's tourism development agency to develop The Villages of Loreto
Bay, an authentic Mexican seaside community in Baja California Sur.
The Loreto Bay Foundation, established by the Loreto Bay Company, is a
non-profit organization dedicated to serving the economic and social needs of
the historic town of Loreto. In the early stages of its partnership, the
Loreto Bay Company and FONATUR had agreed to donate one percent of the gross
proceeds of home sales back to the community as a way to help foster economic
and social growth in the area of Loreto. Having recently exceeded
$100 million in residential real estate sales, this $1 million donation given
to the Loreto Bay Foundation will support local projects in education,
extracurricular activities, business development, medical services and
environmental protection for the local community through individual grants
given to various local organizations.
The first donations received have been used to enhance services at
Loreto's local hospital. Recently, the Loreto Bay Foundation awarded Pro
Peninsula a grant to sponsor the 7th Annual Grupo Tortuguero Conservation
Meeting. These funds helped bring participants from all over the Baja
California peninsula and mainland Mexico to participate in the conference, to
help strengthen the conservation network and ultimately lead to the recovery
of endangered sea turtle populations. In addition, the International
Ecotourism Society, in collaboration with the Universidad Autonoma de Baja
California Sur, recently received a grant to assist with the development of a
series of in-classroom and distance learning courses on aspects of
sustainability and eco-tourism for the local community. These classes will
educate members of the local community, such as students, park employees,
local entrepreneurs and artisans, on the importance of safe environmental
practices in the Loreto region.
With bylaws aimed at retaining and conserving Loreto's natural beauty and
protection of the local marine park, the Loreto Bay Foundation's principles
are aligned with the practices in place during the development of The Villages
of Loreto Bay. The development's sustainable practices include programs for
sustainable energy, water renewal and land stewardship, as well as creating
economic opportunities through new jobs and local businesses.
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cool.gif posted on 4-13-2005 at 02:53 PM


Yes.

I see that Walmart is sponsoring some land for wildlife too.

This is a promotion, not out of the goodness of there heart.

I,m sure that all their land development is enviormently sound also.

Sure!!!!!;D
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[*] posted on 4-13-2005 at 04:05 PM
Show Me The Money!!


Wouldn't it be great to track the path of that million dollars starting right now...................
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Wouldn't it be great to track the path of that million dollars starting right now...................



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[*] posted on 4-14-2005 at 03:06 PM


1 million is peanuts.
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[*] posted on 4-14-2005 at 03:14 PM


It could buy a couple of beach front lots.
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[*] posted on 4-14-2005 at 03:22 PM


Since the Foundation is governed by a board, all of the expenditures should be accountable. There were still two board members still to be chosen - they were considering two "Mexicans". As you read above, one of their first "grants" was to ProPeninsula to sponsor the 7th Annual Grupo Tortuguero Conservation Meeting. "These funds helped bring participants from all over the Baja California peninsula and mainland Mexico to participate in the conference, to help strengthen the conservation network and ultimately lead to the recovery of endangered sea turtle populations" Now, while I'm all for any kind of effort toward "recovery of endangered anything", this is all well and good, HOWEVER, the purpose of the Foundation is "dedicated to serving the economic and social needs of the historic town of Loreto" ... "through individual grants given to various local organizations." -- NOT furthering the mission of Pro Peninsula, a San Diego-based environmental organization. Seems to me that one was a little off the mark, and would lead me to wonder how true to the purpose of the Foundation they will be in the future. I suspect, though, that whatever grants are made, they will no doubt benefit the Loreto Bay Company in some manner, rather than purely altruistic. I have a feeling ProPeninsula will not now voice any opposition to the destruction of the bay south of Loreto.

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[*] posted on 4-14-2005 at 05:37 PM


Looks like all the original cynics will still be cynical no matter how many dollars are in the coffirs. That would buy a heck of a lot of peanuts Jessy but how much have you donated?
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[*] posted on 4-15-2005 at 01:33 PM


I'm cynical too, when posts are anonymous.
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Looks like all the original cynics will still be cynical no matter how many dollars are in the coffirs. That would buy a heck of a lot of peanuts Jessy but how much have you donated?


My relatives have lived there for close to 100 years, 20 years ago they where poor, but lived a peaceful, decent, careless life. What has "developments" like these given the community? nothing but dead end jobs, crime, drugs, and all the bad things that come with foreign money and people from central Mexico.

1 million dollars is an insult, go bribe someone else.
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[*] posted on 4-15-2005 at 07:37 PM


Jesse I dont think anybody has seen the money yet.:lol:



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Jesse I dont think anybody has seen the money yet.:lol:


100 million dollars wouldnt cover the damage.
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[*] posted on 4-15-2005 at 07:57 PM
Stink!


Sure has the Smell of the "Sierra Club" written all over the Front Page!

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[*] posted on 4-15-2005 at 08:11 PM


Sierra Club sucks



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[*] posted on 4-19-2005 at 09:39 AM


Bruce: "Sierra Club sucks " ?? Why would you say such a thing?

Skeet: "Sure has the Smell of the "Sierra Club" written all over the Front Page!" What do you mean? the original post is a Press Release, obviously released by Loreto Bay Co.

And, Mr. Anonymous, if you have any FACTS which you'd like to contribute, we're listening. Let's just see how self-serving the Foundation grants will be with its newly fattened coffers. Cynical? Just pointing out the FACTS.
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Gosh kiddies! They said they would donate one percent of the profits and they have sold to date over a hundred million in properties that they haven't collected. They don't get money until the finished product is done, get it? Hmmmm that adds up to about a million dollars donated.
Do you mathmaticians need a calculator? And Jesse your relatives are taking back California, Arizona AND Texas so I guess it's a draw.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2005 at 11:55 AM
Loreto Bay Co. has developed a plan which:


1. Offers to provide a lot of water through desalination.
2. Provides for the development of a solar farm to generate electricity.
3. Considers the reclamation of natural wetlands.
4. Protects a certain amount of open space.
5. Promotes the use of energy efficient transportation within the communities.

When designing a new housing development, how can you see these things as bad?

Whether or not the development is ill-advised, I don't think anyone is going to stop the influx of foreign visitors/investors into the area. Would you prefer that they go in WITHOUT these lofty goals for sustainability?

They may very well fail as others have before them. There is certainly evidence that they have sold more than they can deliver, and they won't have all the money until they complete the homes; but every time I've driven by the playground they built for the families in Loreto (just a start) it has been well used and apparently popular.

They have a right (and responsibility) to try something very un-American, that being sustainability.

In light of the clearly rampant rape and pillage of our natural resources by forces unimaginable to the average "tree hugger", I say give the Sierra Club the right to its feeble little voice in the disappearing wilderness. Though, as was mentioned in another post, it doesn't have a damned thing to do with the Villages at Loreto Bay.




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The wording and the playing of the "Save the Turtle" theme, Conservation etc is very obvious> That is the way the Sierra Club started out so many years ago, playing the same Song to get donations for their various programs whether Good or Bad.
I have always said that if there is enough Water, if there are programs for The Workers families, schools , New Medical, etc that it will be a good thing for the people of Loreto, not for just the Developers.

Please donot fall to the Song of the Do Gooders, Save the Whales, Save The Turtles, save everything except other Peoples Money!!

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[*] posted on 4-19-2005 at 12:33 PM
Sierra Club Saviors?


I don't think so.....




Why? Why does the Sierra Club suck? Being a Sierra Club member 30 yrs ago I can attest to the political changes that have evolved. Can you imagine how much Sierra Club money goes to lobbying and politics. It is unfortunate that the club focuses on agendas like:

"Unless the U.S. population is stabilized and eventually reduced, the Sierra Club will fail in its mission."


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http://www.sierraclub.org/endorsements/2004/

sure looks partisan to me....

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Sierra Club members vote on restricting immigration
By TERENCE CHEA, Associated Press Writer

Saturday, April 9, 2005
(04-09) 00:01 PDT San Francisco (AP) --


One year after failing to win control of the Sierra Club in a bitterly contested election, advocates for stricter immigration limits are back, arguing that the venerable conservation group can best protect the environment by reducing U.S. population growth.


The club's 750,000 members are voting this month on whether the 113-year-old organization should push for tighter restrictions on immigration, and five seats are open on the 15-member board of directors, which sets club policy and commands the $100 million annual budget.


Sierrans for U.S. Population Stabilization, a network of club activists seeking to limit immigration, are backing five candidates and pushing a "yes" vote, asserting that Americans are the world's biggest consumers, and that when immigrants come to this country they significantly increase their consumption.


"The issue of escalating population growth in the United States is the single most important environmental issue in the nation," said board member Paul Watson, who also heads the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. "We've got to address this problem. We can't continue to have our heads in the sand."


But opponents, including many current and former club leaders, argue that wading into the politics of immigration will alienate allies such as labor unions and civil rights groups, and won't slow population growth worldwide.


"Just to focus on building more walls, and focus on immigration into the United States, does nothing to address the global population problem," said Sierra Club President Larry Fahn, who is urging members to reject the ballot question. "It would be damaging to the club and its alliances around the country."


Voting by mail and online has already begun and will end at noon on April 25, when the election results will be announced.


Last year, a record number of members voted in the group's most contentious election yet after club leaders warned members that outside anti-immigration and animal rights groups were trying to seize control of the influential organization.


More than 171,000 members voted ? more than twice as many as in previous elections ? and the five board candidates backed by the club's leadership won in a landslide. They defeated some big-name opponents, including former Colorado Gov. Richard Lamm and Frank Morris, former director of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation.


The San Francisco-based Sierra Club, founded by famed conservationist John Muir in 1892, has debated its position on immigration for years, and voted in 1998 to remain neutral.


Still, the club's immigration control advocates have continued to push for a harder line, and forced the question onto the ballot again this year. They say the U.S. population, which has reached about 300 million people, is expected to more than double this century if nothing is done to slow its growth.


"Our population is already too large to be sustainable within our resource base," said Dick Schneider, a club member in Oakland who wrote the ballot argument in favor of lower immigration limits. "Unless the U.S. population is stabilized and eventually reduced the Sierra Club will fail in its mission."


Schneider and his allies say that overpopulation has led to a variety of environmental problems, including increased resource exploitation, the erosion of wilderness and the extinction of species.


The immigration control advocates also insist that they have nothing against immigrants. In fact, they claim that limiting immigration will improve wages and working conditions for immigrant workers by reducing competition for jobs.


"I'm not anti-immigrant. We should reduce the number of immigrants coming into this country to achieve (U.S.) population stabilization," said Watson, who is a Canadian citizen and U.S. resident. "Nobody wants to close the door. We just want to lower the numbers."


Opponents say the Sierra Club already recognizes overpopulation as a major environmental threat, but say the threat must be addressed globally, by advocating for family planning education, birth control access, fair trade and empowerment of women, especially in poor countries.


"We believe population growth has to be addressed by addressing its root causes," said Robert Cox, a former Sierra Club president who wrote the ballot argument in favor of remaining neutral on immigration. "Immigration control has done nothing to reduce family size or population pressures. It just scapegoats people who end up bearing the brunt of our trade policies and foreign policy."


Last year, Cox helped start Groundswell Sierra, an organization formed by Sierra Club leaders and activists to defeat the immigration control candidates. Over the past year, Groundswell Sierra has sent mailings to tens of thousands of club members. By contrast, Schneider's group has only sent mailings to its 2,000 members.


Schneider said he's not optimistic the ballot measure will pass "given the array of money and forces against it," but he believes the Sierra Club will have to confront the immigration question eventually.


"The sooner we come to grips with it the better," Schneider said. "It's key to protecting the environment."


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Now it seems they are looking to pin the degradation of our environment on others. What happened to all those corporate polluters?I guess you can't shut them down so you blame others, or teach others how to coexist with pollution. . It is ludicrous to suggest that our southern neighbors are a pertinent factor in our destuction of the environment. Just more wolves in sheeps clothing bleeting out political agendas. So, should we care how the Sierra Club votes? Would/does it make a difference?
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AS far as the developers go................show me the water! I wonder how much denero goes to lubricating the political squeaky wheels?
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[*] posted on 4-19-2005 at 02:36 PM


Jesse can blame his own Fonatur for the overdevelopment. Cabo, Ixtapa, Cancun, ect..
At least LoretoBay has a "Plan". As for the H2O there is plenty from the 9 wells that were drilled to supply enough for over 200,000 per day. The finish of Loreto Bay will only add at the most another 20,000 in the next ten years. For the number lame that's only 10%. Do the math.
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