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Loreto, should we go?

rancho guillermo - 8-17-2020 at 08:17 AM

Question for the Nomad Family. We have an annual Labor Day Weekend fish trip to Loreto. I was hoping for advise on if it is a good idea to go. Do the people of Loreto want outsiders coming in to town with the Covid thing going on. I have spoke to the Panguero who is taking us fishing and he explained that some places are open and that he can take us fishing. I just dont want to be the Ugly American that comes to town if the residents of Loreto are trying to keep things at a minimum for exposure.. They probably need the pesos but I was curious. Bill Erhart, Loretena, La Tijereta or any Loreto people? Your thoughts.

David K - 8-17-2020 at 08:21 AM

Mexico announced that the "non-essential" travel ban has been extended to Sept. 21, so I hope you have property that needs checking in Baja... Just in case they enforce that (again) on the days you are driving south.

The U.S. has matched Mexico with the dates:
https://mx.usembassy.gov/travel-restrictions-fact-sheet/

[Edited on 8-17-2020 by David K]

Skully - 8-17-2020 at 08:26 AM


You might want to read this thread first. There seem to be a LOT of restrictions in Loreto for fishing.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=94915

4x4abc - 8-17-2020 at 07:34 PM

why don't you let Baja recover from C19 and come when everything is clean - besides, you are potentially bringing C19 from the US. If you think it is all a hoax, then of course - don't pay attention to me.
Hospitals in BCS have just reached maximum capacity.
https://coronavirus.gob.mx/datos/


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rancho guillermo - 8-18-2020 at 09:48 AM

Thanks Everyone, especially 4X4abc. That is what I was thinking, it is just hard to say no to Baja sometimes. Always good to get feedback to help with decisions. We will postpone our trip until things are better.

It is the right decision. Everyone stay safe and cool.

JZ - 8-19-2020 at 09:55 AM

Go to Seven Sisters and camp. You can stay way away from ppl

Today, from Discover Baja Travel Club:

David K - 8-19-2020 at 01:15 PM

Road Conditions
UPDATED August 19, 2020:



Hurricane Genevieve has intensified to a category 4 and there is a Tropical Storm Watch Warning in place for Baja California Sur. While the hurricane is not expected to make landfall in Baja, expect hurricane conditions with heavy rains and strong winds (40 mph or greater). The storm is currently expected to hit the area late Wednesday through Thursday. You can read the latest updates with more specific information about Hurricane Genevieve on The Weather Channel.


COVID-19 AND LIMITS ON NON-ESSENTIAL ACTIVITY
As Mexico begins to reopen, the country has started using a national “stoplight” system to begin reintroducing non-essential activity region by region as deemed safe. The stoplight designations are reassessed and updated on a weekly basis. For the week of Aug 16th-Aug 22nd, the state of Baja California Sur is rated “orange” and hotels, restaurants, beaches will be operating at 30% capacity. Specific rules vary from municipality to municipality. The state of Baja California (norte) is rated “red,” closed to non-essential activities. The waters of Northern Baja are open to private vessels, which includes fishing at the Coronado Islands.


BORDER CROSSINGS
The U.S.-Mexico land borders are temporarily restricting non-essential travel until at least September 21, 2020. U.S. citizens and permanent citizens will still be allowed back into the U.S. from Mexico during this time. We have heard multiple stories about Canadians being allowed to cross into the U.S. from Mexico as well.
Some of the California/Baja land borders are currently operating on reduced hours:
San Ysidro: open 24 hours
(PedWest is closed but PedEast remains open 24 hours)
Otay Mesa: open 24 hours
Tecate: 5am-2pm daily
Calexico West: open 24 hours
Calexico East: open 6am-2pm
Andrade: open 6am-2pm


CHECKPOINTS
While Highway Mexico 1 is open for through travel, certain towns along the peninsula have closed access for non-residents. They are stopping all southbound cars entering Ensenada, so expect delays. Travelers who are not residents of Ensenada (or farther south along the peninsula) may be turned around. Highway Mexico 5 is open and now completely paved. Residents or homeowners in Baja should carry current proof of residency (a current utility bill or fideicomiso).


RESOURCES AND ASSISTANCE
For Emergency Assistance for U.S. citizens in Mexico, call 55-8526-2561 from Mexico or 1-844-528-6611 from the United States.
Baja California (norte) COVID-19 Page
Baja California Sur COVID-19 Page
U.S. Embassy Border Restrictions Fact Sheet
State Department COVID-19 Page
U.S. Embassy in Mexico COVID-19 Page
U.S. Customs and Border Protection website

mtgoat666 - 8-19-2020 at 02:16 PM

I heard that hotels and tour operators are limited to 30% capacity by govt decree from DF.
so, assuming businesses are complying, reserve early, as capacity should be 30% of normal. i doubt that travel has recovered to 30% of normal -- when will travel recover to >30% of pre-trump-disease levels?

motoged - 8-19-2020 at 05:06 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Go to Seven Sisters and camp. You can stay way away from ppl




You really don't get it, do you? :rolleyes:

JZ - 8-19-2020 at 06:28 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Go to Seven Sisters and camp. You can stay way away from ppl




You really don't get it, do you? :rolleyes:


I'm not sucking on the govt teet like you are. Or rooting for the collapse of economies.


[Edited on 8-20-2020 by JZ]

motoged - 8-19-2020 at 06:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


I'm not sucking on the govt teet like you are.


:?:

motoged - 8-19-2020 at 09:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


I'm not sucking on the govt teet like you are. Or rooting for the collapse of economies.


[Edited on 8-20-2020 by JZ]


Jizzy,
Once again you demonstrate your inability to understand how things work....when not designed for your immediate gratification.

Any income I receive from the government is entitled to ALL Canadians over age of 60.....and are from contributions made by me throughout my 45 years of gainful employment.

Maybe our government has a better system than yours....


Maybe you could educate yourself before jumping to your false accusations between asking Nomads where you should go for your next getaway, how to get there, where to eat, sightsee, and the usual parasitic questions you dump on the forum.

And I don't know where you get this " hoping for a failing economy" thing comes from..... sounds kinda made-up....

Even DK kinda suggests going to Baja these days isn't essential (although the message is buried in a lot of mumbo jumbo .....probably too long for you to read).....


But, as your hero says, "It is what it is".....and I say "you are what you are"...






[Edited on 8-20-2020 by motoged]

JZ - 8-19-2020 at 09:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


I'm not sucking on the govt teet like you are. Or rooting for the collapse of economies.


[Edited on 8-20-2020 by JZ]


Jizzy,
Once again you demonstrate your inability to understand how things work....when not designed for your immediate gratification.

Any income I receive from the government is entitled to ALL Canadians over age of 60.....and are from contributions made by me throughout my 45 years of gainful employment.

Maybe our government has a better system than yours....


Maybe you could educate yourself before jumping to your false accusations between asking Nomads where you should go for your next getaway, how to get there, where to eat, sightsee, and the usual parasitic questions you dump on the forum.

And I don't know where you get this " hoping for a failing economy" thing comes from..... sounds kinda made-up....

Even DK kinda suggests going to Baja these days isn't essential (although the message is buried in a lot of mumbo jumbo .....probably too long for you to read).....


But, as your hero says, "It is what it is".....and I say "you are what you are"...






[Edited on 8-20-2020 by motoged]


You have posted on here many times that you don't care about the economy collapse and all the harmful things that does to many millions. Because you are comfy in your house on the gov teet.

Awful human being in my book.

Just stop stalking me you weirdo. You quote 9 of 10 posts I make on here. Are you actually a grown man?

motoged - 8-19-2020 at 10:31 PM

yep....you really don't get it....

And I told you I would call you out on your BS....no BS from you, fewer comments from me....

Or is that too complicated?

ncampion - 8-20-2020 at 11:00 AM

This is why I don't read BN anymore.

del mar - 8-20-2020 at 11:27 AM

I think you're all nuts!:lol:

motoged - 8-20-2020 at 11:39 AM

Yes, but some more than others :biggrin:

Loretana - 8-20-2020 at 01:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ncampion  
This is why I don't read BN anymore.



Same here. I really used to enjoy contributing and swapping cool Baja lore, travel tips and all those great photos. Not so much anymore.

And this does not in any way reflect on the owner of this site.

Triste. :dudette:

Lee - 8-20-2020 at 02:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Loretana  
Quote: Originally posted by ncampion  
This is why I don't read BN anymore.


Same here. I really used to enjoy contributing and swapping cool Baja lore, travel tips and all those great photos. Not so much anymore.

And this does not in any way reflect on the owner of this site.

Triste. :dudette:


So, some nomads (ged, DK, JZ, others) sling some insults from time to time. (I mention DK because his political comments are insulting to some.). Sad but true.

I don't know what you 2 want from this forum. The way it use to be? Do your feelings get hurt because nomads aren't getting along?

Stick around, and ignore the less than positive stuff. Don't read it, if it upsets you. Just move on. Maybe you're too sensitive for this forum.

Check in less? The good stuff is here written by good people. To me, it's all worth it. And I like how Doug handles things here. Relax. Keep letting go.

JZ - 8-20-2020 at 02:54 PM

The problem is not many are going to Baja right now because of the damn virus.

But one solution is for you to contribute stories and pics of past travel.

Lee - 8-20-2020 at 03:57 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  

Lee, it's easy to discount and say "oh, you're just too thin-skinned!" The fact is, we're missing out on people who aren't willing to put on body armor to participate here. It's a loss, and we're seeing it in the lack of diversity and new blood.

Ni modo, it's not likely to change, but it's sad.


Lencho -- you registered long ago, but you are a newbie here. 79 posts is a newbie. As for those who have gone, goodbye. People leave for different reasons. If this forum is toxic for some and they leave, I think they don't belong here. Simple as that.

Disagree that anyone needs body armor. You're describing snow flakes. Now, I don't understand why some nomads don't leave JZ alone. To me, his stories and travels are interesting. Photos are a plus. He has his own ideas about the virus, which I ignore. As I do about the virus posts, anyway.

I wade through do-do sometimes to get to the good parts here. I suggest people do the same. Take what works, and ignore the rest.

Can't speak for Bill but can paraphrase an attitude some share. If the nomads here, who you've never met, can write words that hurt or offend you, your ego is too fragile for this forum.

Ged, Tom, and you lencho, not sure why you feel the need to pick on JZ. Get a life and stop being snarky. It's beneath you.



bajadogs - 8-20-2020 at 09:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Why do liberals hate other viewpoints, other ideas to the point they hope to silence them through insults and harassing? Liberals used to claim to be in favor of other ideas and free discussion. Nick Campion is a gentleman and hospitable Nomad. Is name calling making you feel good? It is so juvenile.


You David, are the reason I don't contribute anymore. You praise Trump while you claim to hate name-calling, you go off-topic again and again claiming you are above it. I'm so sick of your ignorant, arrogant head-hole comments. My apologies to the original poster but this went sideways because you, DK needed to slam liberals. DK, you should be banned or at least head slapped.

Again, my apologies to the OP who had a sincere question with legit advice from great peeps. If you all want some fun, go to search, find David K, and type "liberal". You will clearly see who belongs off-topic. Mic drop burro hole. I'm freaking done.

motoged - 8-20-2020 at 10:52 PM

Bajadogs,
While I totally agree with your take on DK, I must accept responsibility for taking the OP's topic sideways with my comment about JZ's continuing to minimize Covid risk management by encouraging travel to Baja and other places when more informed and responsible Nomads provided their opinions to discourage the OP's trip to Loreto....a suggestion which the OP accepted gracefully.

And I agree with Lee's comment.....JZ is an easy target for my frustration with his type.....and I have come to realize it is of no value to comment on his posts.

P.S. Let me know when the head-slapping line-up starts :biggrin:



[Edited on 8-21-2020 by motoged]

BajaMama - 8-26-2020 at 05:53 AM

I have heard chatter that hotels are open in Loreto. Please note that recently (and who knows if it has changed, it is Mexico after all) that the launch ramp is closed to anyone who does not have a permit allowing them to take out clients who want to fish. In other words, no private boats are allowed to launch, even if you hire a local captain for your boat. I assume this is to encourage tourists to pay for the experience of fishing, snorkeling, diving, etc.

If you do go stay at the yurts at San Ignacio Springs. They are open and clean. I am jealous - I usually go twice a year but am choosing to stay home out of respect of current Mexican law. I shudder to think of the condition our house will be in but I go as an FMM tourist and do not have residency.