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jrbaja
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Has something happened?
"It would seem that without foreign intervention nothing would have happened."
Besides 5 years of prolonging the misery that is.
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David K
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Awareness outweighs silence or ignorance jr. Some new Nomad or lurker may have better luck than jeans has had to date... By talking about it in public
or at least trying to do some good is better than sticking your head in the sand... at least in the minds of most normal folks.
Would you get MORE clothes, bug spray or baseball equipment if you never mentioned a need (to anyone on Nomad)? I think not... if we didn't know you
were a good place to take our donations, then you wouldn't have as much as you have received...
So, lovers of animals or just those who can see a need for improvement in Santiago... come forward. Primarily one Baja Nomad has been doing the most
to try and help... there could be more.
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Dave
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Yes. You and I and others are now discussing it.
Which is more than would have happened if no one had "meddled".
| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
If these foreign "do gooders" would mind their own business, things would happen much faster as far as relieving the
pain these critters are living.
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Again, the original question:
How so?
And a second:
Why?
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jrbaja
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David
Although the Nomads have made donations, you know very little about the entire program. They come from many places besides a message board and the
people down south appreciate all of them. If I were dependant on Nomads for donations, I would be just like you with my posts. I am not!
Dave, if some meddlers hadn't stuck their nose into fixing up this zoo, the smell alone would have got the locals to do something about it. Now they
have switched paths to get the animals out of there. Indecision causes many delays and makes those involved look like idiots.
If the meddlers had gone to the right people in the Mexican government rather than just some small gringo message board with a very few people as
members comparitively speaking, something would already have been done.
There are many more influential people that live in south Baja and many agencies down there with the power to actually get things done when they
need to be. They don't waste their time reading gringo message boards because they have more important things to do.
But when they read that someone is already doing something about it, they assume something is being done. Unfortunately, this is not the case, just
a bunch of babble while the animals suffer.
How do you get your licensing, business work, etc. accomplished down here? Through the Baja Nomads board?
Next thing I expect to hear is that the Baja Nomads has become a new political party
Come back down to earth people, Papas and Beer gets 3 times the amount of people that are on this board before 9:00 almost every Saturday night!
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David K
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"I were dependant on Nomads for donations, I would be just like you with my posts. I am not!"
jr, You will never be like me: I don't hate people, call people names, post bigoted comments, put people down for having good intentions, say I know
more than anybody because I live somewhere... Call people knuckleheads that leave donations (in this instance me and Santiago).... etc. etc.
You were so nice in person... why do you get so anti social on the Internet?
How long can you keep biting the hands that 'feed' you (donations), before it stops? Your attitude controls your altitude... right now, you are
grounded...
I would sure welcome the nice jr to return! I don't dislike you jr, I dislike the way you treat most of the good people on this forum.
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jrbaja
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Me thinks David
that most people on this forum don't come near to being the P-nche gringos I talk about. Some of you sure take it personally though! And you should.
The majority of people who regularly give donations on this board have seen right through the coop group nonsense and continue to help the people
down south. They just don't feel the need to brag about it.
I didn't say anything about Santiago or anyone else who gives donations. I'm just kind of tired of you being the one who is always talking about
donations. Thanks for the few bags of clothes and 4 or 5 cans of insect repellant David.
In spite of the fact that you were one of the coop group saying I just do what I do for self acclaim or whatever you geniuses came up with, you
still gave the people something.
I have mentioned before that I think everyone that comes down should do what I do. Many are. How about you David? Did you leave more things for the
local people of Baja or just set another fine example when you were in El Rosario?
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
Dave, if some meddlers hadn't stuck their nose into fixing up this zoo, the smell alone would have got the locals to do something about it.
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Yeah, right. I wonder how the locals missed the smell when the bear died. I guess everyone must have been up wind.
You really need to invest in a pair of waders because by now I imagine it's getting pretty deep. Or, you could just wait for the "locals" to appear
with shovels in hand. You know, the ones with the keen sense of smell.
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jrbaja
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It took you that long
to come up with that?
Dave, it seems as if we feel the same about zoos. i suggest you go back to the beginning of this story before forming opinions and deciding who
needs the waders.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
Dave, it seems as if we feel the same about zoos. |
Good.
I'd like to burn it down. Wanna help?
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jrbaja
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I won't comment on that one
and especially on here!
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Sharksbaja
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It's no fun life....
Zoos do suck. No doubt about it. Animals in small cages and pens, be it a circus or petting zoo should have a better life.
Why should these animals be confined in unnatural restricted pens and cages for mans' selfish viewing pleasure. I feel the same way about a 5 ft
"touch-tank".
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