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Al G
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BCSTech, Have you tried any alternates like these or are you just a Dishworks dealer? I have heard of 2m dishes. Have you tried them? If you are not
interested, please let me know. I am a long time Directv user and don't want to change. I will go a long way to find an alternate to dishwork.
Albert G
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Al G
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Directv
Is there anyone La Paz and below using an alternate antenna for Directv?
Albert G
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Al
We have quite a few people here with direct tv, some with 2m dishes some with 1.2 nobody I know has 2 dish. They still only get 1/2 of what they used
to.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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MrBillM
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DirecTV 8 Coverage
Although I've spent some time looking through resources for a coverage map indicating the footprint and signal strengths for DirecTV 8, So far I've
been unsuccessful. The footprints for the previously existing DirecTV satellites at the 101 slot show a prime focus signal strength of around 54dbw
(Central U.S.) down to less than 38dbw in the Southern Baja region. One would expect the new satellite to have a similar footprint, but who knows ?
It may be that the effective footprint simply doesn't exist that far down.
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BCSTech
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Hi Al G. You wrote: | Quote: |
BCSTech, Have you tried any alternates like these or are you
just a Dishworks dealer? I have heard of 2m dishes. Have you tried them? If you are not interested, please let me know. I am a long time Directv user
and don't want to change. I will go a long way to find an alternate to dishwork.
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The new satellite, DirecTV 8, has a tighter footprint on the U.S. than its companion. There is simply less
spill over into Baja. That's why you can't see the channels that were moved to the new transponders. It has nothing to do with setting up a dual feed
to separate the signals from two colocated satellites, regardless of what the DirecTV Rep said. I've been in this business for 20 years, and I can
tell you he's full of feathers.
The information in the link MrBillM posted is intended for U.S. customers seeking a multiple satellite system capable of picking up multiple Dish
Network or DirecTV satellites in the U.S. under normal signal footprint conditions. None of these dishes/feed configurations will work here, nor could
they ever be used to separate two colocated satellites no matter where you are.
I have used two 6' (1.8 meter) antennas to pick up the 119? and 110? Dish Network satellites and losfrailes has done the same using one 1.2 meter
dish. But, remember, he and I are talking about Dish Network satellites and not DirecTV. Different companies, different satellites.
The DirecTV signal is simply too weak now on half of the channels to receive them here with a conventional-sized DBS antenna. I have read of someone
near Mexico City who was able to get some DirecTV reception for _part_ of the day on the missing channels using a 3.1 meter (10') antenna.
I haven't set up a 10' here to try to recover the missing DirecTV channels and I probably won't. It's not that I'm not interested but I doubt many of
my customers will want to go back to a 10' dish again and I sure don't want to spend my money on one. I can get better reception for less hassle and
cheaper using 1.2 to 1.8 meter antennas on Dish Network. I'm not a Dish Network dealer by choice but by necessity. I had DirecTV too until it went
down.
If you install a 10' antenna for DirecTV, let me know how it works.
[Edited on 5-1-2006 by BCSTech]
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BCSTech
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I forgot to add that I have not specifically tested a 2 meter (6.5') antenna. But I have tested 6.0' (1.8 meter) antennas on both DirecTV and Dish
Network. From the total absense of those DirecTV channels on the 6 footers, I can guarantee you that adding another 6" will not bring them back.
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Al G
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Thanks BCSTech,
I will stop to talk and I am now sure Chuck will be in shortly. I finally get it and that means everyone else will too.
I now have a duel tuner Samsung Directv DVR w/Tivo. Will I have to get new Dish equipment?
Albert
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Al G
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Directway
Also I was going to use Directway, but now will need to do something else??? Got any answers?
Albert G
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BCSTech
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Hi Al G,
Sorry to say, you will need a Dish Network tuner. We have dual units with DVR or you can buy one in the states. You may be able to sell your DirecTV
tuner thru eBay, Craigslist or elsewhere. I'm starting to get a collection of them and don't know what to do with them myself.
DirecWay uses another satellite. No problems there. I'm using a DirecWay system at this moment to make this post.
Are you in TS? Best to call me if you are in the area. I'm hardly ever at the store.
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The Other Half
Another factor which might weigh in favor of a changeover to Dish Network is the fact that the channels lost to DirecTV 8 were part of a migration to
move channels away from an aging satellite. Given the current experience, you might expect that when the time comes to migrate the remaining channels
to newer equipment, the same profile would probably be employed. That, of course, could take years, but who knows ?
DirecTV 1R at 101 deg was launched in 1999.
DirecTV 9S is scheduled for launch in the second quarter of 2006 and will be deployed at either the 101 deg slot OR the 119 as a backup for either 4S
or 7S. 4S was launched into the 101 slot to provide extensive spotbeam transmission.
A Final Word of Agreement.
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According to Lyngsat.com, BOTH DirecTV 1R and the new DirecTV 8 are located at a nominal 100.73 degrees West and show almost exactly the same Azimuth
and Elevation computations for La Paz ( 24.07N / 110.17W) i.e. at 23.78N / 110.23W Satellite D1R shows: 157.69 / 60.16 and D8 shows: 157.48 / 60.13.
This confirms that the problem is the Satellite's footprint rather than location. No luck for BCS.
BTW - http://www.lyngsat.com is an excellent resource for both satellite info and pointing information for ANY satellite you may be interested in.
[Edited on 5-1-2006 by MrBillM]
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BCSTech
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Hey Al G.,
I should add that DirecWay and DirecTV are two completely different companies and no longer related. What affects one service does not affect the
other.
MrBillM, thanks for that link 
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Happy TV Junkie
I had direct tv in loreto, have lost so may channels I gave up on it and now have star choice, had to pay to get a canada address but I feel it was
worth ever penny, star choice it's a great system we are very happy with it,the man that got us are system is named Frank, his # is 623-202-1380, the
cost per month is between 30 and 80 a month, the whole thing cost me 345.00 plus shipping to my states address. Happy TV Junkie
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