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Cypress
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Dean and Skeets, You both are a wealth of information. Thanks for sharing.
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dean miller
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How do I get Scallops
Thank you for the nice complement.
It is rewarding to realize that I as a recently elevated newbie that I have posted something of educational value.
Some where on this board, not too long ago, I read something about or to the effect that "Newbies" were always asking in approprite questions and/or
never posting items of value. Perhaps I have some how and some way vindicated this statement and validated my new status.
Now, I would assume I can make non germaine one line incomplete sentence snide remarks? I am certainly anticipating my new status and the
opportunities it provides.
(just Kidddding)
I am enjoying this board and the members I have met electronically and maybe someday in Baja
DM
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Ersatz Scallops
Since the information I read regarding Stingrays and Cookie Cutters was in the Los Angeles Daily Socialist Peoples World (L. A. Times), I will defer
to others for accuracy on the actual meat involved.
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BajaBruno
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No offense, DM, but I went to the FDA website and it contains nothing on Ocean Scallops. There are twenty-three listings for 'scallop" and they are
all bivalves. See http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/seaintro.html for the search page.
I'm not saying you are wrong, because I have heard for years that rays are used as imitation scallops, but I would really like to see how the FDA
weighs in on this issue. There is a cryptic mention of the FDA banning a Chinese company from importing "imitation scallops" because of salmonela,
but I can find nothing else on the topic on the FDA website or definitions. Any help in locating sources for what the feds regard as legitimate
"imitation scallops" would be appreciated. Purely for education, of course--I'm not looking to import anything!
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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dean miller
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[quote BajaBruno
No offense, DM, but I went to the FDA website and it contains nothing on Ocean Scallops. There are twenty-three listings for 'scallop" and they are
all bivalves. See http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/seaintro.html for the search page.
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Very good observation. Good Site for FDA! Thanks for directing me there. I too, seached for the reference I wanted but could not find it.
My statement relates to a college class I presented, oh so, many years ago. I have either packed my notes or tossed them so unfortunately can't
provide a valid reference at this juncture. When I was teaching the class the FDA made a distinction between Sea and Ocean. This is what I recall:
If the product had "Sea" in its title then it was from the sea and contained the product was as described, ie Sea Scallops and contained Scallops
If the product had "Ocean" it its title then the product was some sort of a faux item, ie sea scallops was made from who knows what? Rays?, Skates?.
If there happens to be a large oriental market in your immediate vicinity I would strongly urge a visit. The Japanese have become masters of
producting faux "Ocean sea food" They use all sorts of items to make Ocean sea food that is almost idenical in texture, flavor, apperance and even
odor to the real item. This includes but not limited to the familar mock crab which is found in most markets produced from the eastern US fish
"pollack" , but they also offer lobsters, octopus, squid and I have not checked but would bet also Ocean Scallops.
Los Angeles area has a chain called "Ranch 99" market . It is totally 100% oriental. They offer a variety of products, all from the orient,
including all sorts of ocean sea food. If possible make a visit --you will be surprised at what is avaliable.
I am going to trott over to Albertsons to check out the packaging and labeling of their Mock Crab. I will report back as to the current valitity of my
original statement
DM
Is Bruno a given name or a destination as in San Bruno?
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Maybe there is a perceived abundance of scallops in Bahia Gonzaga, but their numbers are woefully scarce relative to what once was.
There once was scallops in Conception Bay - there aren't any now. Please leave the scallops be. My sentiment for what's its worth - but I gotta be
me.
and re:
"I read something about or to the effect that "Newbies" were always asking in approprite questions and/or never posting items of value."
Don't be so sensitive - the people who have been posting here for a long time have an inappropriate sense of self-importance.
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Cypress
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Faux Seafood Items. Have seen sheephead turned into red snapper with a flash of a filet knife. An increase in value from close to zero$/lb. to
$5.00+.
Large eels,(moray?) where turned into catfish steaks. The FDA has a grip on interstate seafood sales, but the local mom and pop operations
are a different story.
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dean miller
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Scallops==Faux Scallops--report
As I indicated I made a jaunt to 3 local markets to check on faux fish..My findings;
1) independent market--IDed as Immitation Crab
2) Albertsons Ided as immitation crab with the label "Immitation Krab." Also sold a combo Crab and bay shrimp salad as as Sea Food Salad.
3) Vons Ided as Immitation Crab. Sold Immitation Crab salad, Smoked salmon & immitation Crab salad & cheese and immitation crab salad.
I could not find in the small limited products markets any items Ided as "Ocean..." all were ided as 'Sea..." or as previously mentioned "Immitation
Crab."
My wife informed me that it has been 25 years since I taught the course and times, laws, and people change...And I guess the FDA is in there some
where.
So I think I stand corrected at this time
DM
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BajaBruno
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Well, DM, for what it is worth, I recall seeing something not so long ago where the US govt made a vague distinction between real, as marked seafood
and the imitation variety. I can't find it, either.
I did just find a Chinese company selling "IQF Imitation Scallops made from our fresh frozen treated squid skin-less, membrane-less fillets." Sounds
yummy . . .
BTW, Bruno is a family name that has been treated by my friends for decades as my given name.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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