Don Alley
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"Doctor's Point/El Bajo road closed
My favorite place to haul my kayak to fish. An extensive reef here, with deep water to the north. Closest land to Isla Coronado and an easy paddle to
there. I've caught roosterfish, pargo, skipjack, triggers, snappers, cabrilla, golden grouper, halibut, giant squid, sierra, and more here.
Luckily we'll have a boat soon 'cause you can't drive there any more. A new fence, chain link topped with barbed wire, crosses the road just before
the arches, past La Picazon restaurant.
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ncampion
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Who put the fence up and why? At least it is past La Picazon.
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Don.....Very sorry for that. Is there some kind of new development slated for the beach front there? ++C++
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Crusoe
Don.....Very sorry for that. Is there some kind of new development slated for the beach front there? ++C++ |
I don't know any specifics, but there are always rumors.
But there is a regional management plan, and ALL beachfront from San Bruno north of Loreto to Ensenada Blanca in the south is slated for development.
Nothing reserved for the public. So the days of plentiful coastal access for kayaking, beachcombing, camping, swimming are ending very quickly. But if
you have a boat...they aren't fencing the sea.
I'll sure hate seeing the old ruins in the photo removed; perhaps Mexico's archeology folks can step in and preserve it. It is the oldest structure in
the hemisphere, a primitive Achean temple attributed to Jason and the Argonauts.
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David K
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Don, are you familiar with the San Bruno ruins... the oldest mission-era ruins in California (1683-1685)? Do you know if they will be honored and
protected?
 Photo by Ed Vernon
Before Loreto, the first attempt by the Jesuits was at San Bruno 15 miles to the north.
N26°13.55' W111°23.56'. GPS & Photo by Kevin Clough on 12-97
[Edited on 4-5-2007 by David K]
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Don Alley
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David, I have not seen the San Bruno ruins, but I understand they are a ways inland from the beach. They are not marked and there is little left so
one really has to hunt for them, or get a guide, I think.
Lots of water runs through there, and with several hurricanes in recent years I don't know what, if anything, may have happened. I've heard that a
shifting gully took out the last remains of a mission's foundation at Ligui a few years back.
I am also not sure of just where the hotel and golf course that will be located. They are being built by a Spanish group. Hopefully they will not
build on top of the ruins; maybe they can be a feature on the golf course. 
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The Spanish have built on ruins before.
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regarding the structure in the first photograph, I think I saw the Virgin of Guadalupe there once she was right under the dome
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What is the domed structure? Is it the reason for the closure?
Ken
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
What is the domed structure? Is it the reason for the closure?
Ken |
Some say that was the site of a small failed hotal project built by the owner of the Mission Hotel in Loreto. He was a Doctor, hence the nickname for
the location, Doctor's Point. Dr. Arias? I think. The local name, El Bajo, because of the shallow water in the area. Anyway, the domed structure was
the lobby building, with another building behind it with rooms, also partially ruined. They say this all happened only 20 years or so ago, but I think
those are the same people that say the dinosoars lived 5000 years ago.
I'm sticking to the Jason and the Argonauts theory.
[Edited on 4-5-2007 by Don Alley]
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Don,
thanks for the history. Looks to be a beautiful building, even not complete.
Ken
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Don,
thanks for the history. Looks to be a beautiful building, even not complete.
Ken |
More pics, and a minor mystery here:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=17270#pid1485...
And no, I didn't really think a forum reader was the kidnapper.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Alley
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
What is the domed structure? Is it the reason for the closure?
Ken |
Some say that was the site of a small failed hotal project built by the owner of the Mission Hotel in Loreto. He was a Doctor, hence the nickname for
the location, Doctor's Point. Dr. Arias? I think. The local name, El Bajo, because of the shallow water in the area. Anyway, the domed structure was
the lobby building, with another building behind it with rooms, also partially ruined. They say this all happened only 20 years or so ago, but I think
those are the same people that say the dinosoars lived 5000 years ago.
I'm sticking to the Jason and the Argonauts theory.
[Edited on 4-5-2007 by Don Alley] |
As far as I remember,those ruins were there 20 years ago. Ruins already. We need Skeet here for an update on their history. How about it Sket ?? 
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Alley
David, I have not seen the San Bruno ruins, but I understand they are a ways inland from the beach. They are not marked and there is little left so
one really has to hunt for them, or get a guide, I think.
Lots of water runs through there, and with several hurricanes in recent years I don't know what, if anything, may have happened. I've heard that a
shifting gully took out the last remains of a mission's foundation at Ligui a few years back.
I am also not sure of just where the hotel and golf course that will be located. They are being built by a Spanish group. Hopefully they will not
build on top of the ruins; maybe they can be a feature on the golf course. |
Thanks... yes, they are a short ways inland (to be near fresh water) and on a hilltop... I have not been there myself.
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Don:
Doctors Point was started and Stopped much more than 20 years ago.
It was started by Dr. Inog whose Son works with Ivo.
The Dr.'s plan was to bring Water from the Mountains down across the Highway directly to the Point. A landing Strip was built to bring in Pilot
Vistors, similiar to the Serindad in Muelge.
I Fished, Dove, collected Bat Guano Fozzils, at the Point for years. Also Investigated an Aircraft Aicident there many years ago when a Plane with a
load of Grass attempted a Landing. The DOPERS Hired a Truck, offloaded and got as far as Ensenada before driving off a Cliff.
It is one of my Past Favorite Spots near Loreto.
Skeet
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hey skeet, where ya been?
cap'n g
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George: Right now I am by the Fireplace watching it Snow. Just about an Inch in the Past Hour.
Virginia riding her horse nearly every day, I being an Alderman for Timber Creek doing my Political thing, trying to make some money in case I have to
Bail you out of Jail in La Paz.
Wondering when the next 7 Year Drought will hit Loreto, Might be able to pick up some cheap Houses when it happens.
YouAll come to see us, Ya Heh!
Skeet/Loreto
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Capt. George
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keep that bail money handy Brother, ya never know?
ah, a fireplace, putting one in the new house in La Paz. you can use it when you come down to get me outa the can!
see ya pal cap'n g
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