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Corn grown in Mexico is almost exclusively Silage, that is, corn for cattle consumption. Not American sweet corn. Ever check where Mazteca is made?
Bill, thats the stuff they make the tortillas from. Not that I would expect you to know.
A grass, not the one you are thinking of, has been developed that is better than sugar cane by, I believe by 3 to1, for making Ethanol. That might
get us down the road. So to speak.
One think for sure is that many forces are going to have to come together to straighten out this mess. 
[Edited on 21-8-2007 by Minnow]
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Is there anybody left in Mexico to produce all this good stuff? Pretty soon, we'll be fighting to keep them, speaking of irony.
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We Already are fighting to keep. "THEM" in the US.
Gull mentioned the point that the US would be Peoples Republic of the US by 2012. I give it to 2020. The sole reason is the US is unable to compete
with the cheap labor that Asia has. Mexico is our only source of "cheap" labor. Without a labor force to exploit, we are doomed. The demand for
cheap goods is too great and will kill the US.
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Except, the US gets most of it's oil from Mexico, second is Canada (not the Middle East)
It is going to run out, and soon........we need to think ahead.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Debra
Except, the US gets most of it's oil from Mexico, second is Canada (not the Middle East)
It is going to run out, and soon........we need to think ahead. |
Soln for oil problem is easy. Increase the CAFE stds. Tax the wasteful SUV/PU driver. Don't ruin our wilderness by drilling for a few last drops of
oil until you cut back the US waste of fuel on oversized vehicles.
Encourage people to live near work. Why do people ccommute >1 hr per day? Do they like devoting their "free" time to sitting in their oversized
car/suv?
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Hum?
Well, I have to admit I'm guilty of driving an SUV, thing is that until I needed it for Baja driving (3yrs. ago) I had my 29mpg car for 15yrs. I
did sell that and now have a Honda for "home" upwards of 40 mpg......what really amazes me is that I see (mostly in Ca) 7 out of 10 cars are big gas
guazzing tanks, that have street tires on them, can't quite firgure out what the purpose of that might be.
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Wrong
| Quote: | Originally posted by Debra
Except, the US gets most of it's oil from Mexico, second is Canada (not the Middle East)
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#1-Canada
#2-Saudi Arabia
#3-Mexico
And that's U.S. imports not majority of production. While U.S. imports make up about 60% of consumption, the percentage majority is
still domestic.
And like corn, Mexico will soon become a net oil importer.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Corn grown in Mexico is almost exclusively Silage, that is, corn for cattle consumption. Not American sweet corn. Ever check where Mazteca is made?
Bill, thats the stuff they make the tortillas from. Not that I would expect you to know.
A grass, not the one you are thinking of, has been developed that is better than sugar cane by, I believe by 3 to1, for making Ethanol. That might
get us down the road. So to speak.
One think for sure is that many forces are going to have to come together to straighten out this mess.
[Edited on 21-8-2007 by Minnow] |
Minnow,
Don't you think that Mexico could grow enough sweet corn if they need to? Looks like the need is already upon them.
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Gas from Grass
The many shortcomings of "Cellulosic" Ethanol, made from various materials such as Switchgrass and other agricultural or forest waste materials, is
pointed out in the referenced Times Editorial.
The BIG problem noted with Cellulosic Ethanol is "that it doesn't actually exist-no one has yet figured out how to make it economically in commercial
quantities".
BTW, BaitFish, WHY would I need to know WHAT type of corn Mexicans use to make their Tortillas ? If ever there was a fact of little use to the
average person, that could be it.
Not only do I not know the minutiae of Tortilla production, I REALLY don't care.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Why do people ccommute >1 hr per day? Do they like devoting their "free" time to sitting in their oversized car/suv? |
Yup, that must be it.
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roberto-----
My son commutes 40 miles to work------that is 80 miles a day------because he could not afford to buy a house in the town that his very good job is
located.
People live in the Imperial Valley and commute to San Diego daily for the same reasons.
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Barry --- that was my point. People don't "choose" to commute long distances. Given the option they would live as close to work as possible, right?
The option, however is not available, especially in this day where people change jobs every three years on average.
Why would you interpret my comment otherwise?
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roberto----
because I am not very alert.
My comment should have been directed to magoat66, not you. Your comment was very appropriate.
Sorry about that.
Barry
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Minnow
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
BTW, BaitFish, WHY would I need to know WHAT type of corn Mexicans use to make their Tortillas ? If ever there was a fact of little use to the
average person, that could be it.
Not only do I not know the minutiae of Tortilla production, I REALLY don't care. |
Mr. Bill. Thanks for proving where you are coming from. Mazteca is a Brand
of tortilla mix. Not that I would expect you to know. Not a type of corn. See, you don't know everything. Keep it coming old man. I think you are
GREAT!
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I think it's, "Maseca."
Not that it really matters.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Corn grown in Mexico is almost exclusively Silage, that is, corn for cattle consumption. Not American sweet corn. Ever check where Mazteca is made?
Bill, thats the stuff they make the tortillas from. Not that I would expect you to know.
A grass, not the one you are thinking of, has been developed that is better than sugar cane by, I believe by 3 to1, for making Ethanol. That might
get us down the road. So to speak.
One think for sure is that many forces are going to have to come together to straighten out this mess.
[Edited on 21-8-2007 by Minnow] |
Minnow,
Don't you think that Mexico could grow enough sweet corn if they need to? Looks like the need is already upon them. |
Minnow?
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Minnow
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Certainly Tone. However, my point was that corn for human consumption was secondary. What brings in the money is a nice fat cow. Pure economics.
Silage also grows faster. and requires less water .
In the US corn producers are also subsidized. In MX ,market forces come much more into play.
[Edited on 23-8-2007 by Minnow]
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A Little Humor from the other side.
Today's Riverside Press-Enterprise editorial section included a letter from a guy named Fuentes who noted that "we should look around and see how many
cities in California have Spanish Names, proving that OUR Grandfathers were here Before the Europeans ever came".
Apparently, Senor Fuentes slept through his Geography class and is unaware of the location of Spain.
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He had to get that from the La Raza book of logic.
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