JRabbit
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Approximate driving times
I was just curious if there is any information/maps with driving times once through the TJ border?
For instance, how far would we get in an 8 hour drive with minimal stops.
I tried to google search such information and came back with nothing.
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Sharksbaja
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TJ- Catavina about 7-8 hrs
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
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Viva Mulege!
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Al G
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Sharks is probably right...but the road after San Quintin will shock you unless you are in a sub compact like a toyota...even then you are going to
find aching muscles in your neck and shoulders, if it is your first trip. I would start evaluating in San Quintin and again in El Rosario. Great Nomad
Hotel there at the Pemex. Depending how far you are going....Guerrero Negro will be easier after you get over the first day shock....
Have fun and don't hurry!
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Sharksbaja
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Tis true, the road does have a few stretches which will strain at even the most comfortable driver. In places your tires, and especially big tires,
tend to follow the natural path or pavement. That means your are always correcting and depending on your rig, it's steering setup and the response
time, you stay busy keeping all four tires on the road.
If your rig is big and/your wheelbase is large you don't have much room on either side of you. Sometimes it's just an inch or two between you, an
oncoming truck and the edge of the road which drops off precipitiously in many places. It's good Al brought it up. First time is TRIP! Cuidadoso por
favor!
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CaboRon
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I agree with Al G and Sharksbaja,
Drive no further than El Rosario the first night and stay at Baja Cactus.
Second day drive to GN or even San Ignatio is not too bad. Stay at San Ignatio Springs Bed and Breakfast. Stay in a Yurt, float on the river
for a day , stay a second night and in the morning after a great Canadian breakfast..... drive on down to Mulege or Loretto.
CaboRon
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vgabndo
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This thread has me thinking about how we can be helpful here on Nomads, and we can tend to forget that many of us have a lot of experience on that
road. I'm remembering trying to explain the lure of Baja to my friends after the first few years of traveling there. One of the things I remember
saying was that just driving the road successfully was an accomplishment. It still is, although not so much as it was even 15 years ago. I've called
it adventure travel with a white line. On the other hand...you don't get to call your trip an adventure if there is no uncertainty. KNOW your
limits, take your time. If you need your headlights outside of town, you are taking an unnecessary risk especially for a "rookie"; in my judgement.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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BornFisher
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The real Baja doesn`t start until you CROSS THAT BRIDGE (El Rosario)!!! Then the Baja Magic gets you, much less traffic, the terrain, the plant life,
the pace, the mood, the planning, the schedule, the limits,........... it all changes after THAT BRIDGE!!!!!!
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Sharksbaja
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Hey chk this out
When Hose A was a real "hoser"
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=13321#pid1103...
See, nothing has changed.
[Edited on 1-28-2008 by Sharksbaja]
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thebajarunner
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Close, but not quite
| Quote: | Originally posted by BornFisher
The real Baja doesn`t start until you CROSS THAT BRIDGE (El Rosario)!!! Then the Baja Magic gets you, much less traffic, the terrain, the plant life,
the pace, the mood, the planning, the schedule, the limits,........... it all changes after THAT BRIDGE!!!!!! |
The "real Baja" starts immediately after the last plowed field South of San Quintin. The rolling road down the dunes toward El Rosario is great fun!
And contrary to the above, my shoulders and knuckles ache all the way to San Quintin, then the relaxation floods across me and the drive is pure bliss
from that point clear to Santa Rosallia.
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El Jefe
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In a regular vehicle you will average 50 mph tops including minimal stops. That is moving right along. Obviously there are some faster straight
stretches and curvy slow areas, but we have always averaged about 50. If your rig is a moho or you are pulling a trailer, 40-45 is more likely.
So just look at the map and figure how many miles between proposed stops and divide by 50. I'll bet you come out really close.
Another note; these days there is so much traffic on the road north of San Quintin that you may be hard pushed to average 50. Have fun!
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Jefe
In a regular vehicle you will average 50 mph tops including minimal stops. That is moving right along. Obviously there are some faster straight
stretches and curvy slow areas, but we have always averaged about 50. If your rig is a moho or you are pulling a trailer, 40-45 is more likely.
So just look at the map and figure how many miles between proposed stops and divide by 50. I'll bet you come out really close.
Another note; these days there is so much traffic on the road north of San Quintin that you may be hard pushed to average 50. Have fun!
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This is right on, El Jefe!
As for where 'The Baja' really begins?.... Well, different places for different people:
1) Truly it begins at the border, where the sense of adventure starts... You know, like can you make it through Tijuana and Ensenada without getting
shot or pulled over!
2) Where Hwy. 1 goes from a 'normal' width to 19' wide with no shoulder (Km. 0, south side of San Quintin/ Lazaro Card##as).
3) Where you first see boojum trees, south of the El Rosario river bridge... (most popular place for Baja to begin).
4) Whenever you leave the pavement!!!  
[Edited on 1-28-2008 by David K]
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DianaT
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Laughed when I read just a little of that thread---we at times drive too fast---no traffic down middle of road, but we both have been known to stop on
some curves---try to time them to not meet the truck coming the other way at the wrong time, but if we do, we make sure he gets by. Have had too many
drag their trailer around the curve.
We love getting past El Rosario on that first day. Even with stopping to shop in Ensenada, food stop, and doggie stops, we have little trouble making
Catavina and we don't cross the border that early.
We don't keep close track of time nor miles, but on one trip I did write down a few times---these of course vary ALOT from driver to driver. Also,
we ALWAYS stop more, so the times are longer
Border to San Vicente
where we eat if we don't shop in Ensenada ------3 hours
San Vicente to El Rosario 2 1/2
El Rosario to Catavina 1 1/2
Catavina to Guerrero Negro 2 1/2
Getting past the bridge beyond El Rosario always brings a smile to our faces.
Diane
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Acuity
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Jefe
In a regular vehicle you will average 50 mph tops including minimal stops. |
My math skills must be challenged. If the speed limit is at most 80kmh (50mph) and often less
(in towns), how do you average 50mph?? ,
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Al G
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Without regard of life or limb...
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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805gregg
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In August crossed at Tecate at 7:30 am pulled into GN at 4:30 pm.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Acuity
| Quote: | Originally posted by El Jefe
In a regular vehicle you will average 50 mph tops including minimal stops. |
My math skills must be challenged. If the speed limit is at most 80kmh (50mph) and often less
(in towns), how do you average 50mph?? , |
The speed limit is higher than that in many places; legal or practical.
Maybe one of the biggest dangers for a first timer is the distraction of the landscape from San Quintin south. And that, coincidentally, is where the
pavement narrows and often leaves no margin for error.
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