| Pages:
1
2 |
Skipjack Joe
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8084
Registered: 7-12-2004
Location: Bahia Asuncion
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
more challenging without a guide and you learn faster |
I feel that way about all fishing. Solving the riddle (e.g. which bug coming off, approriate fly and presentation, direction of approach) is most of
the sport. Just reeling a fish in is for youngsters, meat fishermen, and people who really aren't serious about the sport. |
Skip, lucky you, you don't have to worry about us cavemen, children, primatives who never learned the real Sport, the artistic arrangement of flow and
function. Some of us might be offended by your arrogance if we had larger brains, knew how to be real Sportsmen like you. You stepped over a very deep
line in the sand my friend. |
Oh I wouldn't take anything on the internet too seriously, Osprey.
Humble people may appear arrogant. And liars may appear honest.
|
|
|
BajaBruno
Super Nomad
Posts: 1035
Registered: 9-6-2006
Location: Back in CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Happy
|
|
Well, to diverge a bit from the original post, a mention was made about mako sharks. I have heard from several people that makos are in the SOC, but
looking at mako shark tracking data, they never seem to round the corner into the Sea. The satellites don't lie, but maybe it is another population.
Is the Cortez fisherman mistaking another shark for the mako, or are there really makos in the SOC?
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
|
|
|
baitcast
Super Nomad
Posts: 1785
Registered: 8-31-2003
Location: kingman AZ.
Member Is Offline
Mood: good
|
|
Great thread,did some googleing on the subject and came away with nothing more than we started with!
To get a valid test you would have to get the fish to cooperate to the following.
1 run in a straight line,no turns.
2 run at top speed for say 100 yd,s
3 make sure you don,t jump and so on
More questions what weight line will we use?
How much pressure do we apply to said line?
The fish would have to be at their best fighting weight,water temp would have to be factored in
One site I visited did not have the Mako in the top 10?
So after more thinking and reading I came to the conclusion IMHO a valid test could not be set up to being with
The Mako of the Cal. coast generally perfer cooler water than the SOC offers but who knows?
Rob
|
|
|
Pompano
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8194
Registered: 11-14-2004
Location: Bay of Conception and Up North
Member Is Offline
Mood: Optimistic
|
|
BajaBruno.. Personally, I have never caught, or 'postively seen', a mako this far north (off Bahia de Concepcion) into the Sea of Cortez. I have
read accounts of it happening. Once, about 10 years ago, I 'thought' we had a mako hook-up on a fast feather while out for tuna...but the strike,
jump, and break-off was way to fast for a positive ID. Funny acedote about that event: My visiting buddy from North Dakota saw that shark hit, jump,
and bust the line..then turned to me and said.."I don't want to catch anything that big!"
http://topp.org/blog/interview_mako
The makos we do see are the MAKO CC's..nice boats. 
Lots of other types here...50-60 different types of sharks and rays....including great whites and threshers. Along this line, a totally new species
of shark was discovered in 2003-indentified via DNA in 2006- by a young Mexican marine biologist aboard a research vessel.
Caught in very deep water, the new shark is about 5 feet long and was named, "Mustelus hacat," after the word for shark in a local Indian dialect.
Dark in color, like dark coffee, and have white markings on the tips and edges of their fins and tails. This was the first shark discovery in the
Sea of Cortez since the tiny Mexican Horn Shark was identified in 1972.
The Mustelus hacat lives in the ocean's depths feeding on shellfish and shrimp. They have very, very small teeth. They are not aggressive or
dangerous...and most likely not a very fast fish.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
|
|
|
baitcast
Super Nomad
Posts: 1785
Registered: 8-31-2003
Location: kingman AZ.
Member Is Offline
Mood: good
|
|
Mako,s are damn scary critters,I only had a 16" boat at the time and not much free-board so its a up close and personal thing when you land a fish
We ate the smaller models,very good on the grill by the way but on several occassions hooked some biggies that were really scary,when jumping
they may come out and do a 360 or come straight up an land tail first you never knew,did alot of chasing as you might amagine,had a bad habit of
jumping very close to the boat which was just to much for us to handle
mentally,fearsome looking things.
We cut off more than one:lol
Rob
|
|
|
Steve&Debby
Nomad
Posts: 335
Registered: 12-18-2007
Location: Colusa,California/ Percebu
Member Is Offline
|
|
Wow that must have been a chore fishing out of a 16" boat.
|
|
|
BajaBruno
Super Nomad
Posts: 1035
Registered: 9-6-2006
Location: Back in CA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Happy
|
|
Thanks Pompano--I always appreciate reading your insight. I checked your link and I must confess, the one fellow does show in the SOC, but it must
not be common, because I checked the track of eleven other current makos (plus the ten others shown in your link) and they didn't come close to
venturing up into the Sea.
One shark is not a large enough sample to draw conclusions, but clearly some get lost now and again and find their way up into the Fish Trap. Thanks
again, Pomp.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
|
|
|
AcuDoc
Nomad
Posts: 331
Registered: 9-3-2003
Location: The Seven Seas and Thailand
Member Is Offline
|
|
I just heard on a fishing show I was watch last week the fasted is the sailfish.
|
|
|
baitcast
Super Nomad
Posts: 1785
Registered: 8-31-2003
Location: kingman AZ.
Member Is Offline
Mood: good
|
|
AcuDoc, glad to see you back,always enjoyed your postings,its been 7 or 8 years I guess,was living in Nine Mile Wa. at the time,looking forward to
many more!
Now back to the sailfish and speed trials,just can,t buy a valid test being set up in the first place,to many variables!!
Rob
More google.
Four-wing flying fish 35 mph,I wonder how they got that reading?
Blue shark 43 mph,got to be kidding,these guys are slugs.
Tiger shark number 10 on one list,not built for speed and wrong type of tail.
Tarpon 35 mph spends to much time in the air to get a valid reading I,m thinking.
[Edited on 4-3-2008 by baitcast]
[Edited on 4-3-2008 by baitcast]
|
|
|
AcuDoc
Nomad
Posts: 331
Registered: 9-3-2003
Location: The Seven Seas and Thailand
Member Is Offline
|
|
tnx baitcast 
|
|
|
| Pages:
1
2 |
![[*]](images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
