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[*] posted on 7-14-2008 at 11:12 AM


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I must jump in here. Everytime mexicans are the talk to some or most here, it's something bad and I have to forgive you because you just talk generalizing. I wont call you all ignorant but the fact is that you ignore many things. I attended college in San Diego and along with me several, many other Tijuana residents and it was Southwestern College. What you people that are generalizing ignore is that we paid foreign student tuition, yes we paid to attend and it was a lot of money, we never got it free or took advantage of "your system" and I'm very proud of it. Later I went on to travel school and also paid tuition, so what if I had mexican plates, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? As for mexicans going across every day to take advantage of education there are some but they get caught eventualy by CBP if not by the school. Many people that live in border towns and look mexican and talk spanish and drive cars with mexican plates are US citizens, did you ever think about that? And don't get me started on beeing born in the US having taken advantage of "Your System" I paid when my kids were born. As for the levels of education, talking k-12, I would never allow my children to attend school in the South Bay area of San Diego, not if they have an opportunity to attend better schools in Tijuana, ones with much higher academic levels, are taught values and all wear uniforms.
And is Tijuana safe, yes, very safe, I have my wife and kids here


Such very good points. Having taught high school in Calexico, we had students from Mexicali. Yes, there were some that did not pay and every so often the school district would set people at the border to see who was crossing each day---but here are a few things from a teachers point of view.

1. Some of the students paid to go to school in Calexico--yes, one from Mexico can pay to go to the US public schools.

2. Some of the teachers in Calexico paid to have their children go to private schools in Mexicali.

3. Many of our students attended public school in Mexico until junior high and then changed to school in the US. For the most part, they were amoung our BEST students. They had a solid educational background and a respect for education.

4. License plates tell nothing. Many of our neighbors, ¨legal¨residents had Baja plates and businesses in Baja. Many people in Mexicali had US plates. We had students who were US citizens, but lived on the other side===so technically, they were illegal.

5. Calexico Unified School district is a mess, has many, many problems, and NONE of those problems are caused by students crossing the border == even though they like to blame it on the crossing students at times.

6. Those students and parents who crossed the border spent a lot of money in Calexico.

It is not a simple equation, but Ferna is quite right about some of the education, IMHO. It seems to be that Americans always think we have the best, the best everything, and that is not always the case.

Thoughts from a very patriotic liberal==just following in the tradition of our liberal founders. :yes:

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[*] posted on 7-14-2008 at 11:20 AM
Neighbors with FOREIGN license Plates ?


If you "reside" in California, any vehicles registered in your name and used in California are REQUIRED to be licensed in California so I don't think you can say they had legally-licensed vehicles.

The DMV encourages residents to "Drop a Dime" on their neighbors because those neighbors are adding to YOUR tax liability by evading theirs.

[Edited on 7-14-2008 by MrBillM]
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[*] posted on 7-14-2008 at 12:48 PM


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whoa! taco, you old people are easily confused!
the "costly" identity theft you refer to is about people obtaining fraudulent credit.
the identity theft of immigrants borrowing SS#s to obtain work generally has nothing to do with illegally obtaining credit.

taco, someday there will be a cure for your senile dementia. until then, soldier on!

[Edited on 7-14-2008 by mtgoat666]


So how costly is it when the IRS sends you a CP-2000 letter asking for back taxes, interest and penalties for $20,000, $30,000, $40,000 of income you never earned. How much is your time worth for the 100’s of hours you will spend to clean the whole mess up, and maybe even get a new SS#? In the eyes of the IRS you are guilty until you can prove otherwise.

And "borrowing" a SS#...Please, don’t insult us, it's not a cup of sugar.

And are you claiming that the illegally documented aliens ONLY use the stolen SS# for working? Or are they also obtaining credit cars, buying cars, and houses...?

You are the one whom is confused




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[*] posted on 7-14-2008 at 04:11 PM


Just to get a little more off topic.. I really think the new limited edition aluminum Tecate bottles are cool.

I'm still trying to thing of a worthy use for my empties..

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[*] posted on 7-14-2008 at 04:49 PM
I Haven't Bothered to Read All the Ranting


Or to deconstruct the various politcal/tax/economic analysis from our expert commenters.

But, good Nomads, let me pose a question--if a family (of whatever nationality) struggles, sacrifices and makes the strongest efforts to educate their children in the best available institutions that they can access, aren't we creating a better class of people, regardless of nationality?

That these children, on the most part, retain a sense of where they are from, but also gain an appreciation of the education that maybe comes from another culture, and, hopefully, have a strong sense of obligation about what they can contribute back to all of these influences as they enter their productive years?

It's all a crapshoot with children, but endless poverty and ignorance inevitably produce new generations that grow up embittered and attracted to unrest and violence, "As a way to make a difference".




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