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[*] posted on 7-16-2008 at 11:19 PM


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you are a guest of a country so it is important that you " go along to get along? as you would in many countries in the world.

I agree, it would not be polite to hold protests, disrupt the flow of traffic, or boycott businesses in a country where one is a guest. As a matter of fact, it would be illegal for a foreigner to do that in Mexico.


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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 05:56 AM


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you are a guest of a country so it is important that you " go along to get along? as you would in many countries in the world.

I agree, it would not be polite to hold protests, disrupt the flow of traffic, or boycott businesses in a country where one is a guest. As a matter of fact, it would be illegal for a foreigner to do that in Mexico.




Great point Fulano. The double standard is alive and well in Mexico. Try getting out your american flags and protest march in Mexico and see what happens to you. :cool:
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 08:01 AM


Redmesa. Amerikak??? Is your spelling some kind of Canadian put down to our country? Maybe you should find some other way to Baja so you would not have to travel through our terrible country.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 09:18 AM


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Redmesa. Amerikak??? Is your spelling some kind of Canadian put down to our country? Maybe you should find some other way to Baja so you would not have to travel through our terrible country.



maybe I'm dumb but I cannot figure out what you are trying to say here:?::?::?:




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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 11:08 AM


Redmesa...Amerikak, in my judgment, coming from a Canadian would best be left a "mute" (sic) point.

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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 01:46 PM


I've been doing business throughout Mexico for almost 20 years. The fundamental "problems" I see in Mexico are:

1) Corruption. Corruption is pervasive throughout the entire country and economy ... and at all levels. Yes, you can point out isolated cases of corruption in the USA, but it is EASILY 100 times worse in Mexico ... top to bottom.

2) Culture/Work Ethic. I have several Mexicans who work for my company. When we have a "one man" job to be done, Mexicans would much rather do the job with their "amigo" ... even if it means splitting the amount they will earn. Americans will usually (not always) take the job alone and keep all the money.

3) Bureaucracy. Even the Mexican managers who work for my company are surprised by the level of bureaucracy in the Mexican Government.

I call these "problems" with quotes ... because some will see them as differences and not problems .... but I can tell you for sure that these "problems" are what keep me paying my technicians in Mexico $10,000 USD per year ... they just flat out are not as productive as they could be if they did not have these "problems".

Some will say money is not the almighty God to Mexicans ... fine ... but don't complain when your schools suck, your roads are like crap, and your politicians and judges screw you (steal your oil money).

Do you know what the minimum wage is in Mexico: $4 PER DAY!!

Many that consider these "problems" ... come to the USA illegally. I say, give them a guest worker permit, no Government Benefits ... and WELCOME!!!
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 01:53 PM


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I've been doing business throughout Mexico for almost 20 years. The fundamental "problems" I see in Mexico are:

1) Corruption. Corruption is pervasive throughout the entire country and economy ... and at all levels. Yes, you can point out isolated cases of corruption in the USA, but it is EASILY 100 times worse in Mexico ... top to bottom.

2) Culture/Work Ethic. I have several Mexicans who work for my company. When we have a "one man" job to be done, Mexicans would much rather do the job with their "amigo" ... even if it means splitting the amount they will earn. Americans will usually (not always) take the job alone and keep all the money.

3) Bureaucracy. Even the Mexican managers who work for my company are surprised by the level of bureaucracy in the Mexican Government.

I call these "problems" with quotes ... because some will see them as differences and not problems .... but I can tell you for sure that these "problems" are what keep me paying my technicians in Mexico $10,000 USD per year ... they just flat out are not as productive as they could be if they did not have these "problems".

Some will say money is not the almighty God to Mexicans ... fine ... but don't complain when your schools suck, your roads are like crap, and your politicians and judges screw you (steal your oil money).

Do you know what the minimum wage is in Mexico: $4 PER DAY!!

Many that consider these "problems" ... come to the USA illegally. I say, give them a guest worker permit, no Government Benefits ... and WELCOME!!!



YES------RIGHT ON!!!!! Barry
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 02:01 PM


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Redmesa...Amerikak, in my judgment, coming from a Canadian would best be left a "mute" (sic) point.

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The sic was correct, the spelling is "moot"




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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 02:08 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by palmeto99
Quote:
Originally posted by fulano
Quote:
Originally posted by redmesa
you are a guest of a country so it is important that you " go along to get along? as you would in many countries in the world.

I agree, it would not be polite to hold protests, disrupt the flow of traffic, or boycott businesses in a country where one is a guest. As a matter of fact, it would be illegal for a foreigner to do that in Mexico.




Great point Fulano. The double standard is alive and well in Mexico. Try getting out your american flags and protest march in Mexico and see what happens to you. :cool:


The double standard IS alive and well in Mexico ...




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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 07:29 PM


This Canadian women is typical of the Canadians I know that have the I am better attitude of the Canadians. Hows that indian problem working out for them up there above the 49th. They are so out of this world. Where is Black Creek BC. I still own property in Rock Creek .BC but have never heard of Black Creek,BC.:cool:
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[*] posted on 7-17-2008 at 08:27 PM
Which he clearly knew from the "sic"


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Quote:
Originally posted by vgabndo
Redmesa...Amerikak, in my judgment, coming from a Canadian would best be left a "mute" (sic) point.

Semper Fi

The sic was correct, the spelling is "moot"


and which subtle nuance you completely missed.

too bad, actually...
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