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MexicoGringoGuy
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Well.. Some people feel that people with lesser means than them, don't have rights and opportunities as others with more means...
I disagree, I think the article might have been about people with NO money, and NO job, that come here, maybe on drugs, and cause problems for
Mexico... Let me assure you that although I dont have a job.. I do receive money, and I DO NOT cause any trouble for mexico, WHAT SO EVER!
After reading more, I see nothing that says you CANNOT live in mexico on an FMT.. although still a tourist, you can have a home.. (Are you going to
pay a hotel for 180 days?)
Your right, it would be better to get a FM-3, but it is not required, and I am not breaking any laws what so ever.. I have a Visa to be in this
country legally..
Noone knows m enough on here to say that any article was written about me.. Just because I disagree with certain people, give noone the right to
attack me and say I am a problem for mexico!
If you want to know the Gringos that drive housing cost up are the ""GRINGOS"" that walk around thining gringoish and pay gringo prices, and get taken
advantage of so easily, and pay twice the amount.. Who can blame the landlords wanting to rent to idiots...!! Some gringos are such push overs,
and targets that they give us all bad names... Not all of us want an Americanized life in Mexico....
The article was nto about me...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MexicoGringoGuy
Well.. Some people feel that people with lesser means than them, don't have rights and opportunities as others with more means...
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Well, since you're in the "Victim" mode today, you may not want to understand what I'm about to say.
Immigration laws in Mexico are loosly translated and much ignored when it comes to enforcement. They don't want to instigate feelings in the US that
they are upholding the letter of the law and create a backlash of like sentiment north of the border.
That said, things change when you are on the rack at Inmigración and somebody who knows somebody wants you deported. The interpretation of your FMT
rights are redefined at the moment and their logic turns to reality when they tell you, "Anybody with your property and obvious connections to the
area can't and wont be considered a tourist. You're outta here." It happened to me, MGG.
So, when you think you have what it takes to tell an official in Mexico how he should interpret Mexican law, you're living in a dream which could,
at any moment, turn to nightmare. You're a white ******* and you should keep that to yourself.
That seven star deletion was of a word synonamous with "damp illegal alien" I thought it was common usage.
[Edited on 8-1-2008 by DENNIS]
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MexicoGringoGuy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by MexicoGringoGuy
Well.. Some people feel that people with lesser means than them, don't have rights and opportunities as others with more means...
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"Anybody with your property and obvious connections to the area can't and wont be considered a tourist. You're outta here." It happened to me, MGG.
So, when you think you have what it takes to tell an official in Mexico how he should interpret Mexican law, you're living in a dream which could,
at any moment, turn to nightmare. You're a white ******* and you should keep that to yourself. |
Yes Dennis, BUT I don't have property, and I don't have many ties here.. SO I am in a different situation than you I would think..... I just moved
here, and I amnot sure I will stay forever ... IF I decide to move into a more permant residence (a bigger one) and stay here, and start
collecting,etc etc.. then a FM-3 would be the best...
As with any Mexican Law its enforced by the official standing in front of you... I know this.. BUT I have done nothing to noone to have immigration
called on me, and I am a little fly for immigration to try to get rid of me.. SO I don't plan on answering to any official... If I have to I just
have to.. I will cross that bridge....
I have discussed before about getting my fm-3 and would, but i run into a few hitches...
Only responding as a victim because I was told the story is about people like me
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DENNIS
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I've been told at immigration, "No." But who really knows.
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There is a bill being considered
in the mexican congress or whatever it is they use to pass laws that will change the FMT.
The new FMT will still give 6 months and multiple entries but users will be limited to 30 days at a time and will have to exit and re-enter to stay
legal.
Supposedly this is to discourage Permanent Residents from abusing the system.
Don't ask for a link as I saw it a couple of weeks ago and now cant find it.
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Makes sense.
In general the immigration folks will direct you to your FM3 and then try to keep you from advancing to FM2 status, followed by inmigrado status,
since at the latter stage, their cash cow expires.
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bancoduo
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| Quote: | mexicogringoguy
Noone knows m enough on here to say that any article was written about me.. Just because I disagree with certain people, give noone the right to
attack me and say I am a problem for mexico!
The article was nto about me... |
who is Noone
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The misspelled "midday cowboy"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
The new FMT will still give 6 months and multiple entries |
In the past, there was a multiple entry FMT but it wasn't monitored. One could come and go at will. I remember that they charged a couple of bucks
extra for that one. The regular FMT was three dollars.
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sanluquëna
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This article says that 6,036 Americans live in Tijuana with immigration papers and that the Mexican immigration deports about 445 foreigners from Baja
each year.
http://senderodelpeje.com/sdp/contenido/2008/08/01/11692
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sanluquëna
This article says that 6,036 Americans live in Tijuana with immigration papers and that the Mexican immigration deports about 445 foreigners from Baja
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Makes you wonder how many Americans total live in Tijuana. Far more than 6 thousand, I'm sure.
445 is nothing. The number gets smaller when you consider the deportees are from many countrys....China..Central America...Los Angeles....
Welcome to BajaNomad, sanluquena
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MexicoGringoGuy
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It is a very limited article.. and doesnt give specifics.
As far as I know, the legislature has NOT passed any law limiting the length of a FMT... it is still UP TO 180 days, at the Agents descresion. And
you can go over and renew.. Its just the way it is .. very simple.. Not sure why some of you are hell bent on saying Using a 180 day tourist visa
is illegal.. Why would they make it for 180 days??
And I am not sure if you can Renew it.. BUT whenyou leave you gove it up... cross the border, THEN return and get a new one.. (I have never
received on here.. My last on was received as the Acapulco airport) so I am not sure how they do it here..
Tony
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MexicoGringoGuy
Not sure why some of you are hell bent on saying Using a 180 day tourist visa is illegal.. |
It isn't illegal for tourists, Tony. Are you a tourist? Does having an FMT make you a tourist? To refer to yourself, one who resides in Tijuana, as
a tourist just because you have a tourist document is plain disingenuous. You can tell yourself that since it makes sense to you, it should make
sense to the world but, I wouldn't bet the farm on that.
Don't worry...you arn't alone in this dilusion. There are many others.
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MexicoGringoGuy
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Yes Dennis.. BUT who stays in a HOTEL for 6 months?? on a 180 day FM-T?? Why do they gove 180 days? Do people actually pay $50.00 + a day for 180
days as a tourist , lets see thats $9,000.00 PLUS... Well I guess some can, but most can't .. or won't!
I see your point.. and I think its kinda a fine line that many of us are straddling.. BUT I don't think all people who have a apt or home here in
tj on an FM-T are illegal...
I have a few good friends that have 1 year NON RESIDENT visa for the US... .. Why do they need a Year to be a tourist?
I will research all this more and report back... I can try and use my Vanderbilt education even if I am disabled now!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MexicoGringoGuy
I will research all this more and report back... I can try and use my Vanderbilt education even if I am disabled now! |
What has one thing have to do with the other?
Getting back to subject.
Years ago, there were thousands of us living on the mainland with 6mo visas returning to the US every 6mo's for renewal. NO PROBLEMA! We could all
own property outright within the boundaries that still exist today. All went well until the US educated technocrats took over. SORRY, just
reminiscing about the good Ole days.
[Edited on 8-2-2008 by bancoduo]
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MexicoGringoGuy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bancoduo
| Quote: | Originally posted by MexicoGringoGuy
I will research all this more and report back... I can try and use my Vanderbilt education even if I am disabled now! |
What has one thing have to do with the other?
[Edited on 8-2-2008 by bancoduo] |
Just trying to be funny.. Saying that I could try to do something , even if as simple as doing a little research.. I spent all that time and money,
and now I do nothing...
Anyway.. Just kinda jabbing myself I guess!
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