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Cypress
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Trash
Pompano. Good advice. Know what you're talking about. Guess I'm a little lazy. Have a full time just cleaning up my own mess. Will try to do
better!
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by tehag
That dump, El Rosario, is typical of small-town dumps. There are many in the US just as bad. The trash isn't burried often, if at all, so wind has its
way with the lighter stuff. Also there is no enforcement of the actual dump site, so to save time and avoid tire damage, people tend to dump ever
closer to the ingress road until the highway and the dump sort of merge. Education of individuals AND authorities can help ? over time.
As far as tossing goes, programs are popping up all over Baja to both educate against and clean up after. All the schools are into it now. Kid
pressure can be strong stuff on parents. Whether it's ignorance or contempt, society can change it if it will. |
Just for clarification, that photo of the trash near Mex. 1 is over 5 miles from El Rosario (center of town at the sharp curve/ Espinoza's).
There is also a trash dump area along the 'high' road going west from town to La Bocana Beach/ Diamante Del Mar.
If it is just out of sight of town, it seems to be tolerated...
Perhaps, with all the great things happening in this little town a 'Clean El Rosario' project could happen next?
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Barry A.
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neilm------
-----I became good friends with my landlord in Folsom, CA and he had about 35 rentals, all fairly nice duplexes and condos, in and about Sacramento.
It was he, and his father's, full time job just taking care of them. The horror stories he told me was enough to convince me to forget about being a
"landlord", and he was dealing with supposedly middleclass working folks.
I just do not understand folks that defile their own nests, let alone the countryside around them. It is so sad!!! (I think they are "hostile"
towards their fellow man, and have no respect for themselves, despite what others here appear to think)
The idea of forming "litter squads" in Baja is great!!!! I always carry one of those little plastic grocery bags with me in my knapsack on in my
pocket, so that I can at least pick up some of the small litter that I find on my walks. Makes me feel good, if you know what I mean.
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villadelfin
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We were at the beach today along the road to San Juan de la Costa and because of Semana Santa, whole camp towns sprung up within hours. the first
thing that went up were canopies, next came homemade porta potties, then people began picking up litter! It was amazing to see and very welcome. The
local government is exhorting people to keep the beaches clean
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David K
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That's WONDERFUL!!!
Thanks for reporting the good news...
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bajalou
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Quote: | Originally posted by villadelfin
We were at the beach today along the road to San Juan de la Costa and because of Semana Santa, whole camp towns sprung up within hours. the first
thing that went up were canopies, next came homemade porta potties, then people began picking up litter! It was amazing to see and very welcome. The
local government is exhorting people to keep the beaches clean |
Please give us a report next Mon or Tue after they leave.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area
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wilderone
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I'll join a trash squad if others are interested.
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villadelfin
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It really amazes me the way people flick trash out their car windows here. Yes, I too grew up with the crying Indian. Curbside waste hauling is free
and comes twice a week in La Paz.
I've also seen where the local government has placed trash drums out for public use. Someone comes along, dumps the trash in a heap, and turns the
drum into a "private" trash drum next to their house.
Small comfort in the fact that the shopping bags from Ley, CCC and Aramburo are the cornstarch based biodegradable kind
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Cypress
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How much trouble would it be to identify the folks that litter? Set up a camera or two. Get the culprits on film, and give 'em the choice of paying a
serious fine, jail time, or cleaning-up X miles of Hwy. Realize dark o'clock offenders might be a problem, but it's a step in the right direction.
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burro bob
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This is Mexico not the US. Mexicans seldom get tickets from the police. They can't pay any fine and the cops know this ... so no ticket. Surveilance
cameras would be stolen within hours after being placed.
The only real long term solution is simply to be a good example. Joining a clean up crew (there are several in San Felipe that gather up trash along
the highway) is not only a great way to meet locals but also shows the litterers that people do care about the trash.
Giving Mexicans tickets for littering will only increase the amount of trash out there by roughly the same amount as the number of tickets given.
burro bob
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