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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
It will be very interesting to hear from you, Dianaji, when you get yours running, assuming you will take John's advice. If the noise factor is
minimal like he says, it would be useful to many of us.
Me and Sancho have been battling the damned things for almost 500 years to no avail, sometimes right here on the Nomad. On this string, we will just
sit on our burros without flailing, and wait and see. 
Buenas Suertes!
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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dianaji
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
It will be very interesting to hear from you, Dianaji, when you get yours running, assuming you will take John's advice. If the noise factor is
minimal like he says, it would be useful to many of us.
Me and Sancho have been battling the damned things for almost 500 years to no avail, sometimes right here on the Nomad. On this string, we will just
sit on our burros without flailing, and wait and see.
Buenas Suertes!
Sr. Toneart de Quixote |
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thank u, i appreciate your comment. i am one who hates it when someone says, "u can't do that." and love being a pioneer. nothing ventured, nothing
gained! why, i still have friends tell me not to move to Mexico. Ha! i will certainly keep u informed.
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Rosanante was not a burro. A wooden horse? Maybe.
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toneart
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But these are modern times. We have to use state of the art.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Rosanante was not a burro. A wooden horse? Maybe. |
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" Rosinante ", litterally " a second hand nag "
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Bob and Susan
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toneart ... don't you have a "wind machine" already
and...
doesn't it make noise???
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
toneart ... don't you have a "wind machine" already
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doesn't it make noise??? |
Depends on what beans. 
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Seeing (and Hearing) is Believing.
A "revolutionary" concept or design in this field from some independent character sounds a bit like a 200mpg miracle device for the auto.
The $700 Wind Turbine "niche" is pretty well-owned by Southwest Wind Power's (now) Air-X brand and they've done a fairly decent development process
since the 303. Given their research capabilities, and their market share, you would think that they would have gotten there before any minor player,
but I am something of a skeptic, I guess. The Sales potential for a Turbine that out-performs the Air-X at the same price seems substantial.
That said, the Wind Turbines have their place off-the-grid, depending on electricity requirements and wind conditions. I currently have one 403 and
have recommended/installed others. When asked, I always say that, for the cost of one large panel, on cloudy days you can get a lot of amps in a
stiff breeze to supplement those panels. The BIG downside is your neighbors. I have firsthand knowledge of fisticuffs and worse over their use.
Not today, though. Cloudy and Calm all day. Time to run the DC generator before dark.
Like others, I WILL be waiting to hear of the "verifiable" miracle.
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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
A "revolutionary" concept or design in this field from some independent character sounds a bit like a 200mpg miracle device for the auto.
The $700 Wind Turbine "niche" is pretty well-owned by Southwest Wind Power's (now) Air-X brand and they've done a fairly decent development process
since the 303. Given their research capabilities, and their market share, you would think that they would have gotten there before any minor player,
but I am something of a skeptic, I guess. The Sales potential for a Turbine that out-performs the Air-X at the same price seems substantial.
That said, the Wind Turbines have their place off-the-grid, depending on electricity requirements and wind conditions. I currently have one 403 and
have recommended/installed others. When asked, I always say that, for the cost of one large panel, on cloudy days you can get a lot of amps in a
stiff breeze to supplement those panels. The BIG downside is your neighbors. I have firsthand knowledge of fisticuffs and worse over their use.
Not today, though. Cloudy and Calm all day. Time to run the DC generator before dark.
Like others, I WILL be waiting to hear of the "verifiable" miracle. |
u are the first that i am inviting to a pot luck for the viewing/hearing of my windmill once it's installed. i hope u can fish, cause i love it and
would love it if u would bring some...i'll furnish the beer!
oh, and, since u are experienced in this field, are u interested in installing it? i would be forever grateful.
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dianaji
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Inverter for generator
| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
How much power do you think you will get from a $700 windmill ?
Not near enough for any cooking or heating; maybe a few small appliances.
Do you have solar or another power source yet ?
Generator ?
Battery storage ?
I think a generator is your best option for when you are there.
If you don't like the constant noise, get a few batteries to charge once or twice a day and a small inverter.
If you want power while you are gone you will need batteries and either an auto generator control, solar panels or wind to charge your batteries.
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Inverter
Harbor freight has a 20 percent off sale today, so wonder if i should get one with the highest watts?
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MrBillM
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High-Output Generator.
Barring an adequate Wind/Solar array, a fairly cheap alternative solution involving a Gas Generator is a DC unit that I've built a number of over the
years.
Most AC Gas generators don't charge at a very high rate on the DC side. My original power system in the early 80s prior to buying my first Solar
Panel was a Welded Frame with 3.5hp Tecumsah Gas engine driving a 30-amp GM Delco alternator using a Rheostat for charge control. I used to fill the
gas tank, start it up and let it run dry as I went to the beach. Over the years, I've built successors for myself and others.
Although my current primary Solar array of (6) KC130 panels (with 4 more in reserve in the garage) feeding (24) Golf-Cart Deep Cycle Batteries with
the Air-403 Wind Turbine and a few Gensets as alternatives works well most of the time, I still use my current DC unit (yesterday afternoon in the
Gray Calm) which is an 5.5hp OHV Briggs driving another early Delco 80 amp alternator. With the current drive pulley arrangement, it easily puts out
50 Amps or more.
Those DC units can be built for a few hundred dollars depending on the cost of the Gas Engine and Alternator. Northern Tools has an excellent variety
of small gas engines at great prices.
As far as installing anything for ANYBODY ever again.
NO MAS.
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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Barring an adequate Wind/Solar array, a fairly cheap alternative solution involving a Gas Generator is a DC unit that I've built a number of over the
years.
Most AC Gas generators don't charge at a very high rate on the DC side. My original power system in the early 80s prior to buying my first Solar
Panel was a Welded Frame with 3.5hp Tecumsah Gas engine driving a 30-amp GM Delco alternator using a Rheostat for charge control. I used to fill the
gas tank, start it up and let it run dry as I went to the beach. Over the years, I've built successors for myself and others.
Although my current primary Solar array of (6) KC130 panels (with 4 more in reserve in the garage) feeding (24) Golf-Cart Deep Cycle Batteries with
the Air-403 Wind Turbine and a few Gensets as alternatives works well most of the time, I still use my current DC unit (yesterday afternoon in the
Gray Calm) which is an 5.5hp OHV Briggs driving another early Delco 80 amp alternator. With the current drive pulley arrangement, it easily puts out
50 Amps or more.
Those DC units can be built for a few hundred dollars depending on the cost of the Gas Engine and Alternator. Northern Tools has an excellent variety
of small gas engines at great prices.
As far as installing anything for ANYBODY ever again.
NO MAS. |
as for u installing anything for me, i was just jesting...however, would have taken u up on it, had to taken it seriously and was willing.
as for all of that stuff u said about generators, i NOTHING about any of it. i just go by intuition and thus far, it has done well by me.
as for getting a better generator, i already bought one and it is just for standby until i get my windmill or other times when it might be needed. it
will suffice for now...at least i will have LIGHTS!
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toneart
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Shhhhh! Before your exposure, it was still a patent secret which I selfishly protected. My methane generator does indeed make enough noise to scare
away would be burglars. It is more intimidating than Mrbillm's arsenal.
It is an organic system, cost effective and has been known to compose symphonies,which is helpful in my music career. Some popular songs that it
created, in which others were given the credit, are: "Blowin' in the Wind", "Cast Your Fate to the Wind", "Windmills of Your Mind", and the theme from
the epic movie, "Gone With The Wind".
Bob and Susan, you people are downwind from me. So I say, "Power to the people!" Happy to share.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
toneart ... don't you have a "wind machine" already
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toneart
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Dianaji,
Sorry for the hijack. Actually, it was not my fault. 
Go with your intuition. Don't ask me the science behind that, but I have been amazed throughout my life on how well intuition serves. You are also
backing it up by doing research. You are on the right track. I wish you success. We can all benefit. 
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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Dianaji,
Sorry for the hijack. Actually, it was not my fault.
Go with your intuition. Don't ask me the science behind that, but I have been amazed throughout my life on how well intuition serves. You are also
backing it up by doing research. You are on the right track. I wish you success. We can all benefit. |
what do u mean "highjack"?
yes, i remember when they laughed at edison and that first guy who invented airplanes, was it wright? and i recall, they thought einstein was wrong,
and, and, and the doubts, the skeptics...ohmigod!
thank u so much...u have been very encouraging, and if that damn windmill doesn't work...it will be all your fault!*grin*
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Actually THEY Didn't !
Laugh at either Edison or the Wright Brothers, but perhaps you came from a Public School education.
Edison was one of many working towards the same goal as were the Wright Brothers in their field of "powered" flight, various unpowered flying machines
having been flown long before.
AND, people didn't laugh at Columbus (educated ones, at least) despite what the song says.
As they say, the proof's in the pudding (or the Turbine ?). We'll see, won't we ?
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"as for all of that stuff u said about generators, i NOTHING about any of it. i just go by intuition and thus far, it has done well by me."
Really? Intuition (doesn't that mean guessing more or less?) is useful, maybe, if there is no way of knowing, but since you have an Internet
connection, why not read and know?
You mentioned 500 watts, first question: Is that enough?
look here
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You mentioned 500 watts, first question: Is that enough?
look here |
not sure what u mean about 500 watts...is that enough for what?
thanks for the link. i read it and have done a lot of research, considering my being a woman and relying on the people i meet and deal with.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dianaji
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You mentioned 500 watts, first question: Is that enough?
look here |
not sure what u mean about 500 watts...is that enough for what?
thanks for the link. i read it and have done a lot of research, considering my being a woman and relying on the people i meet and deal with.
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You're pulling my Y chromosome, aren't ya? 
ride, Sally Ride
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