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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
What is with all those idiots changing lanes in the queue? In the end, every lane makes to the booth within a couple of minutes of each other.
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Passive aggressive culture. The only time Mexicans have any control or power in their lives is when they are behind the wheel.
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Obviously it was the "prius" and the "UC" lic. frame--------
------sorry you had a bad experience------you may have been meeting the description of a "tagged" vehicle and occupants, and they were just being
careful, as trained.
Your right, tho, your "rights" are much less at the border sometimes--------it is what it is. They should have explained, tho, why the semi-harsh
treatment.
Barry
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Who knows whether the Customs guys have the same apocryphal mandate that traffic cops have about issuing a certain number of tickets, and are required
to hassle a certain percentage daily?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Who knows whether the Customs guys have the same apocryphal mandate that traffic cops have about issuing a certain number of tickets, and are required
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Urban myth alert!!!!!!!!!
There is no "quota" in the strict sense of the word. However, studies have been done and it has been determined that "so many violations" will occur
in a given place, and you are expected to average a pre-determined amount of apprehensions based on those studies if you are truly doing your job in
THAT "place".
At least that was the way it was when I was a street cop in San Diego 155 years ago.
It is a "measurement" tool management uses to see if you are doing the job you were hired to do----nothing more.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
What is with all those idiots changing lanes in the queue? In the end, every lane makes to the booth within a couple of minutes of each other.
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I had this very discussion several months ago with a friend who I hated to cross the border with. He doesn't have a Sentri pass and sits in one lane
all the way to the gate. Never crossed with him in less than an hour and a half - usually two most times. He said the same thing you do and we made a
bet. We both arrived at the San Ysidro crossing at the same time and with Nextel radios in hand. I made a "few" of my precision, time tested lane
changes, crossed and then stopped at the Burger King just across the border. I ordered our lunch and sat down. I checked in with my friend and he
reported that he was "getting close". I finished my lunch (and half of his fries) and had refilled my soda when he finally arrived. I showed him the
time stamp on my receipt and I had crossed a full 25 minutes quicker.
Crossing once a month is probably no big deal but to daily border crossers it adds up and is why you see so many jockey around, changing lanes. The
problem is that too many don't understand why the traffic moves the way it does and why/when you need to make a lane change. That is why you will
often see many of them get to the gate about the same time as those who just stay in one lane.
It is a science practiced by artists...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skip_Mac
Being friendly and cooperative is NO guarantee of reasonable treatment. Nor is un-threatening appearance.
Crossing the San Ysidro at 7pm a week ago, I was confronted in the line three cars back from the both, questions with less than no civility and
treated me like a criminal. Among other things, I was ordered to turn off my engine, hand one of the four officers the keys and stay in the car. An
officer held my drivers side door shut and asked me a bunch of meaningless questions, my job title, the name of the company I worked for, what was in
my car. FYI, I am an upper 50's white haired angle male, driving a newer Prius with California plates and a UCDavis license frame. They never asked
for ID or passport. My camping and fishing gear were all visible in the back. One officer demanded that I open the "secret compartment", and I told
him I didn't understand.
What worries me most, is that I was confined where I could not observe the car search. I am familiar with planted "evidence" issues and an very
uncomfortable being placed in a position where I cannot exercise my constitutional right to observe.
I have received much more courteous treatment from Oakland Cops after they shot up a peaceful picket line at the Oakland Harbor, with "Less Lethal
weapons". The cops behind the shock troops were actually behaving as human, humane beings.
Somehow it seems USA Constitutional rights do not apply within an undefined zone around the USA:Mexico border.
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You are fair game for ICE inspections well before you get up to the actual booth. They always follow that same protocol with the keys, passport, etc.
I even went through it when volunteering to allow the dog trainer to plant a drug pack on my truck. People couldn't tell if I was being busted or
whatever- then the drug dog hit on it on his first pass by and everyone applauded. The first two trucks the ICE asked to assist them both said no
thanks- which surprised me.
I have a hybrid and they have checked my suv closely a few times because the battery systems set off their machines. The density readings go off
their scales. Since you hadn't reached the electronics scan or plate reader yet, maybe they had a tip on a prius drug/coyote crossing for that
morning and were just checking them all. One day I noticed it was every white vans.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I even went through it when volunteering to allow the dog trainer to plant a drug pack on my truck. People couldn't tell if I was being busted or
whatever- then the drug dog hit on it on his first pass by and everyone applauded. The first two trucks the ICE asked to assist them both said no
thanks- which surprised me.
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You got to be an idiot to allow an ICE to plant drugs on your car for a "practice." Never trust law enforcement, it's a profession that attracts
megalomaniacs and imbeciles.
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Bad Times at the Border
I'm surprised to hear that there are so many White Guys being Harassed. That makes no sense at all since it was here that I heard awhile back that
the ones they're always on the lookout for those who are DWB (Driving while Black).
I was actually a bit disappointed at the ease of crossing last week. The agent who looked into my camper stopped for a moment to look at the NRA Blue
Eagle on the back window. I was hoping he'd ask about it so I could go into my rehearsed spiel about the Coming New Deal. He probably thought it was
just another National Rifle Association decal.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I even went through it when volunteering to allow the dog trainer to plant a drug pack on my truck. People couldn't tell if I was being busted or
whatever- then the drug dog hit on it on his first pass by and everyone applauded. The first two trucks the ICE asked to assist them both said no
thanks- which surprised me.
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You got to be an idiot to allow an ICE to plant drugs on your car for a "practice." Never trust law enforcement, it's a profession that attracts
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I was just hoping I could keep the drug pack if the dogs didn't find it... 
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