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Bajahowodd
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A steady diet of lemon juice can really affect one's outlook.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
A steady diet of lemon juice can really affect one's outlook. |
So will a dose of hot lead.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
"Rosarito city police pull over cars to be searched at the entrance to the city after a running gunfight between police in Tijuana and suspected
members of organized crime. (David Maung / Special to the Union-Tribune) "
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/oct/27/bn27gunba... |
If one has nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about. They search vehicles all the way to Cabo........
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Good point. Having driven to Cabo and back many times, I can attest to the fact that the soldiers are polite and courteous, and don't come close to
ruining anyone's day.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Good point. Having driven to Cabo and back many times, I can attest to the fact that the soldiers are polite and courteous, and don't come close to
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And they love having their pics taken with you!!!!
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So true. Almost make one wonder if they are equipped to deal with the bad guys.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaNuts
"Originally posted by DENNIS
The kicker for me is that both prostitution and homosexuality are condemned in the Bible. But now prostitution is legal? and it only took ?000 years?
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Not too many religions cling to the Old Testament. The God of the Old Testament was a prick. No one wants to live by the Old Testament (eat
shellfish=hell, eye-for-an-eye, women=property, gay=hell, prositituion=hell). So basically if you eat lobster and don't treat your woman as property,
you are doomed to hell according to the Old Testament. That doesn't fill up churches on Sundays so the fundamantaist christians pull the anti-gay
parts out of context and try to ignore all the rest... Such is religion. JMHO.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Not too many religions cling to the Old Testament. The God of the Old Testament was a prick. No one wants to live by the Old Testament (eat
shellfish=hell, eye-for-an-eye, women=property, gay=hell, prositituion=hell). So basically if you eat lobster and don't treat your woman as property,
you are doomed to hell according to the Old Testament. That doesn't fill up churches on Sundays so the fundamantaist christians pull the anti-gay
parts out of context and try to ignore all the rest... Such is religion. JMHO. |
Well, Woooosh, I just cannot let all that pass without correcting your errors. So here is your Sunday School lesson for a Tuesday night:
The only thing you got partially correct was the Old Testament admonition to not eat shellfish. However, there is no Hell in the Old Testament. The
Jews had no concept of Hell -- and to this day still do not have a Hell. Hell was invented by the early Christians. By the way, they also do not have
a Devil. The Hebrew word 'Satan' means adversary.
Women are not property in the Old Testament. The 4th Commandment orders children to honor their father and mother. If a mother was mere property,
there would be no call to honor her. In Genesis, God creates Adam and Eve at the same time and gives both of them responsibility and dominion over His
creation. Up until the early 20th century, about the only book that did not consider women as chattel was the Old Testament. Even in ancient Israel,
woman had the right to to buy, sell, and own property, and make their own contracts. These rights were not given to women in the Western world until
about 100 years ago. And according to the oral tradition, woman had a greater level of intuition, understanding, intelligence than men.
And now for advanced Sunday School, not for minors. The Old Testament only forbade male homosexuality. There is not Biblical prohibition on lesbians.
I'm surprised the Right Reverend Skeeter didn't jump in to correct you.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Not too many religions cling to the Old Testament. The God of the Old Testament was a prick. No one wants to live by the Old Testament (eat
shellfish=hell, eye-for-an-eye, women=property, gay=hell, prositituion=hell). So basically if you eat lobster and don't treat your woman as property,
you are doomed to hell according to the Old Testament. That doesn't fill up churches on Sundays so the fundamantaist christians pull the anti-gay
parts out of context and try to ignore all the rest... Such is religion. JMHO. |
Well, Woooosh, I just cannot let all that pass without correcting your errors. So here is your Sunday School lesson for a Tuesday night:
The only thing you got partially correct was the Old Testament admonition to not eat shellfish. However, there is no Hell in the Old Testament. The
Jews had no concept of Hell -- and to this day still do not have a Hell. Hell was invented by the early Christians. By the way, they also do not have
a Devil. The Hebrew word 'Satan' means adversary.
Women are not property in the Old Testament. The 4th Commandment orders children to honor their father and mother. If a mother was mere property,
there would be no call to honor her. In Genesis, God creates Adam and Eve at the same time and gives both of them responsibility and dominion over His
creation. Up until the early 20th century, about the only book that did not consider women as chattel was the Old Testament. Even in ancient Israel,
woman had the right to to buy, sell, and own property, and make their own contracts. These rights were not given to women in the Western world until
about 100 years ago. And according to the oral tradition, woman had a greater level of intuition, understanding, intelligence than men.
And now for advanced Sunday School, not for minors. The Old Testament only forbade male homosexuality. There is not Biblical prohibition on lesbians.
I'm surprised the Right Reverend Skeeter didn't jump in to correct you. |
You got the point I was making. I was oversimplifying out of scriptual ignorance- depends on what bible you read. Much of the confusion of religion
is the hundreds of Bible "translations" and the intentional ommissions in them. Your post reads like a Dan Brown excerpt- which is good I guess-
because it starts dialog about what the truth is. Not too many Christians dwell on the old testamanet unless they are Bible thumpers pulling parts
out to throw into other peoples faces. So what? We all eat lobster- we are all doomed. Now leave that book of fables alone and stick to the New
Testament (although that wasn't put into writing until 80 years after Jesus died so that too is subjest to error. It isn't like he had a press team
follwing him around taking notes).
I've been spending some on-line time looking at the recently posted 4th century Codex Sinaiticus, a manuscript of the Christian Bible written in the
middle of the fourth century, contains the earliest complete copy of the Christian New Testament. The hand-written text is in Greek. The New Testament
appears in the original vernacular language (koine) and the Old Testament in the version, known as the Septuagint, that was adopted by early
Greek-speaking Christians. In the Codex, the text of both the Septuagint and the New Testament has been heavily annotated by a series of early
correctors.
The significance of Codex Sinaiticus for the reconstruction of the Christian Bible's original text, the history of the Bible and the history of
Western book-making is immense.
http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/codex/
You can type in your favorite bible passge by book and verse and see what it was inteded to mean. Very intersting. Not all pages are complete- you
do get to see the faded, torn and incompllete texts.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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The Septuagint is not the Old Testament. It is a Greek translation of the earlier Jewish scripture with some newer scripture not found in the ancient
Hebrew texts. But that is fodder for another topic some day.
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Bible Scholars within our midst!
Let's cut to the chase..................how will Rosie be greeted by Paul at the Golden Gates?
Ken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | | Originally posted by mtgoat666 let's make divorce illegal as it diminishes the value of all marriages. |
It certainly diminished the value of my bank account. |
http://rescuemarriage.org/
Lots of great information here. You can download the public service announcements and send them to everyone you know.
MAGA
marooons Are Governing America
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Dave
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You could ask a Jew
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I was oversimplifying out of scriptual ignorance- depends on what bible you read. Much of the confusion of religion is the hundreds of Bible
"translations" and the intentional ommissions in them. |
We still read the bible in its original form. Additionally, there are excellent English transliterations.
Two I would recommend:
The Pentateuch and Haftorahs-Soncino Press
The Five Books of Moses- Schocken Bible
And FYI, Jews consider the term 'Old Testament' as pejorative.
[Edited on 10-28-2009 by Dave]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
http://rescuemarriage.org/
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Love the T-shirt!
Wondering if the act passed would it be retroactive? Maybe I could get a refund. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Bible Scholars within our midst!
Let's cut to the chase..................how will Rosie be greeted by Paul at the Golden Gates?
Ken |
I thought Peter was on the gate. 
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I didn't want to put him in the same sentence!
(just having some fun folks, before you flame me)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Good point. Having driven to Cabo and back many times, I can attest to the fact that the soldiers are polite and courteous, and don't come close to
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Do you read Spanish?
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Dispara militar arma por error y provoca despliegue policiaco
Luis Gerardo Andradelandrade@frontera.info
TIJUANA, Baja California(PH)
Miercoles, 28 de Octubre, 2009. 2:54 PM
Lo que en un principio se pensó que era un ataque en contra de agentes policiacos, resultó ser un error humano, ya que a un soldado que iba en un
convoy militar se le salió un tiro en el bulevar Fundadores, lo que provocó un despliegue policiaco.
Según comerciantes de la zona, los hechos ocurrieron alrededor de las 12:30 horas, a la altura del fraccionamiento El Rubí, la histeria aumentó porque
al momento de las detonaciones del militar iban pasando unas patrullas de la Policía Ministerial.
Después de confirmar que todo se había tratado de un error, militares y ministeriales se retiraron del lugar, sin embargo aún se podían apreciar los
impactos en la calle.
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/28102...
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Seems to me...
The old ancestors from my family who held on to the backwards, racist ways are no longer around.
I am hopeful and confident that you old bigoted homophobes will fade away as we evolve.
Hugs and kisses,
Mark
[Edited on 10-29-2009 by bajadogs]
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