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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 11:01 AM


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Perhaps the time has come to stand up for ourselves, and instead of imagining that there is always someone else who will do it for us, an altruistic cutesy nanny-leader there to coddle us like infantile children, instead every woman and man is their own self-leader and capable of understanding how and when to say no (and when to say yes).

I wonder if poor diet is the main tool to weaken the public, along with conflicting and nonsensical TV media, orchestrated catastrophe following catastrophe, leaving many to be brainwashed of reason who give up and give in to corruption meekly instead of responding with a rational, NO!

Where's the limit point when you stand up to stop abuse of your neighbor, yourself or family. After it's too late, or before? You people are awfully quiet on all fronts. It's late.

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I'm not optimistic. Mexico has always been corrupt as it was the Spanish way they inherited with their democracy. The Mexican people have always had to ask, plead and give bribes for whatever they get from their government. They are beaten down at a young age and become a passive part of the problem. Contrast that to the USA which was founded by revolutionaries who created a constitution of the people, not the government. Americans cherish the right to bear arms to protect themselves from their government, Mexico prevents her people from bearing arms to keep them from becoming revolutionary. Very simplistic I know- but the two countries have very very different origins which is part of the problem we have applying any logical USA solutions to Mexico. How can we expect Mexicans to rise up within this flawed system?




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[*] posted on 6-27-2010 at 05:16 AM


Martial Law = Seventeen year olds with automatic weapons.
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[*] posted on 6-27-2010 at 06:15 AM


The option is a middle aged gordo. As corrupt as the day is long! Look the other way a few times a day. Target a few U.S. plated vehicles for some mordida. Maybe a kidnapping or two to buy the wife a new car. I was a seventeen year old with an M-16. I would trust the military more than the local police. It all boils down to the upper-brass. I think the military has a little more internal oversight than local police forces. Possibly more eyes to root out corruption.
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[*] posted on 6-27-2010 at 05:04 PM


I am all for Military policing. As are my mexican family. The military don't F... around with criminals, they don't make stops for morditas.

lets see a show of hands of people who have been pulled over by cops who've been harassed and had to pay morditas(bribes)

Now lets see a show of hands of people who've had the same experience with soldiers?

I have been pulled over 4 times and had to pay one bribe with cops. I have never had to pay a soldier. they have always been friendly.




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[*] posted on 6-27-2010 at 06:52 PM


I certainly wouldn't object to him replacing the police in Ciudad Constitution.
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[*] posted on 6-27-2010 at 07:48 PM


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I certainly wouldn't object to him replacing the police in Ciudad Constitution.


Exactly my point. I was actually going to edit my post and say that.....but roasted chicken and potato gnocchi distracted me:spingrin::tumble::tumble::spingrin:




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[*] posted on 6-28-2010 at 12:34 PM


I have been hit several times, and paid twice in the last ten years. The first, I was guilty of speeding as the toll road into TJ ends. 70 bucks. Another, they hit me as I tried to enter the line, unsafe lane change, after directed to do so by his buddy/cohort in crime. He wanted 80, got 20, and I was let right into line. Every time since, I have been let go, and once my wife paid a 17 dollar ticket for me. Give me the military any day! They have been nothing but professional, courteous, and helpful, from TJ to the tip!
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[*] posted on 6-28-2010 at 02:12 PM


It seems to depend on who in the Military is serving you. The commander we have in TJ is good- but many people in Juarez feel they're a problem there.

In Rosarito the police commander has stated that men need a military background to progress through the ranks. We had a friend bypassed for promotion because he hasn't served in the military yet. He understands that and thinks military training is needed as well. The sooner the better IMHO.

BTW- Anyone know where the Rosarito Police station moved to? The old one downtown next to CESPT is now a tourist information center. The cells should be on a tour...




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