gnukid
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Re: an apology to JRBaja
With due respect and appreciation for this forum, I would like to call attention to the post titled apology to JR. For any of you who have had some
time here and recall the circumstances with Doug and Jr, the post by Doug which he bumped reveals a great deal about Doug, the community, the
cooperative use of technology by a few to hurt the group apparently with Doug's involvement and exemplifies that innocent people are targeted and
suffer social abuse for little purpose other than to hurt individuals.
Well you might say, so what! Who cares! As some say, it's Doug's choice! he can do whatever he wants, and apparently he can and does. That isn't the
point.
The point is clear, the thread clearly reveals there is cooperative participation by people who post under multiple pseudonyms, some share IP
addresses, some share computers, and there are those who support this in order to abuse others who are otherwise excellent members of the community.
So, we might ask, why? Why would a few people collude to harass nice people here. Maybe the answer to that is who cares, or should we care? Or more
importantly why would Doug participate in any way in any of this or if he does feel the need to participate, why not do so in a manner which
discourages it instead?
Forum technology is not new, we have been working with online forums with a great deal of experience since the arpanet took off and now we have many
tools and processes which could discourage this, easily in fact. Every day, all night long, programmers and developers make contributions to the forum
community to create tools and code to discourage these abuses.
I applaud Doug coming forward today. His post is also very revealing about Doug, much more so than about JR except that Jr is not at all the person he
was maligned to be by Doug. It would be awesome if we could take a step away from those who do collude to hurt individuals and the group, moving
beyond the apology, action is appropriate and put into place tools and actions to discourage these people. The abuse has been fairly detrimental to
this site, in fact it is nearly the most obvious trait of the site, there are many many methods to discourage it if the admin would do so.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
if he does feel the need to participate, why not do so in a manner which discourages it instead?
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Perhaps he did. You'll notice JR didn't participate in that thread.
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Dave
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Isn't JR dead?
To be effective, an apology needs to be acknowledged then accepted. Unless one is clairvoyant or JR has risen I don't see how this would work. 
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who cares?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
To be effective, an apology needs to be acknowledged then accepted. Unless one is clairvoyant or JR has risen I don't see how this would work. |
It's the heading off an old thread.
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posted on 9-6-2005 at 11:44 PM
Apology for JRbaja
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Diver
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This post came up this morning as a "bump" from BajaNomad himself.
When I tried to post this morning, the thread would not allow posting.
Now the original thread is gone and just a few new posts are showing.
Perhaps Doug wishes to explain why he would "bump" this old thread at this time.
Seems likea pretty stupid move to me.
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DENNIS
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Original thread is still there, Diver. About twenty down from the top on Today's Posts.
[Edited on 8-4-2010 by DENNIS]
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Diver
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Thanks Dennis.
I guess I would have posted this question there; if it would let me.
If nothing else, I guess it was reason enough for Gnu to start a new thread !?
Another happy day on Nomads ....
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I think a good number of nomads have met Doug, his wife and kids at functions down here in Baja and State side, so I really do not believe he would
target someone out of wrongfulness. Having said that, I know sometimes people on this site and in forums really tend to foster anger and most people
would not think of attacking back badly towards others normally but get pulled in. So, let these old things go keep the spirit of helping each other
going which is what this site is really about. Hope All Travel Safe and Take Time To Smell The Roses "No Hurry, No Worry, Just
Fun" bajafun777
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Dave
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Oh, OK
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
It's the heading off an old thread.
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Rereading the thread brings back fond memories of the fights we used to have. Good times.
Can't figure out why Doug would want to bump it, though.
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mcfez
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Yeah....he passed on
| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
To be effective, an apology needs to be acknowledged then accepted. Unless one is clairvoyant or JR has risen I don't see how this would work. |
If this is the same Jr . back a few years ago...he just sounded off his opinions........perhaps with a little thunder at times. I thought he was the
best of all Nomads besides DK. here at this board. This BajaNomadb site used to be a lot more lively...and spicy at times with folks just as Jr. Lets
keep his name in respect.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Can't figure out why Doug would want to bump it, though.
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I think he's making a Zen point. 
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JRBaja is Laughing Right Now
What is it, 4-5 years since he died and he is still stirring up the s*** (excuse me, soup) on Baja Nomad?
How he would be proud.
RIP, JRBaja, you may be gone, but you are not forgotten.
[Edited on 8-4-2010 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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ELINVESTIG8R
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REST IN PEACE JRBAJA AND GO GET EM WHEN YOU CAN!
EDIT: To add additional gif and pic...
[Edited on 8-5-2010 by ELINVESTIG8R]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
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I do believe you are the most creative person here ELINVESTIG8R I do enjoy them, Thanks..
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Thanks Noproblemo2..Truth be told I mine them from the internet then change them a little to suit the need. I don't want to take away from someone
else’s creativity. Thank you Gif God…
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Thanks Noproblemo2..Truth be told I mine them from the internet then change them a little to suit the need. I don't want to take away from someone
else’s creativity. Thank you Gif God… |
Well ELINVESTIG8R , you're a great "miner" !!!
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BajaGringo
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Not sure either why Doug bumped it but there you go - that is one of the perks that come with the position. If you haven't had the pleasure to have
met Doug, I can assure you that he is a class act and I doubt it was solely motivated by wanting to stir s**t up....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
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Cool man lol~~~miss my amigo~
READY SET.....................
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