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mojo_norte
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Gnu (great snowboards BTW) you try and plead an objective point of view but your opinion is quite one sided opinionated - as per usual in my
experience- thus the reason many persons on this board might have a problem with you.
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gnukid
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Mojo, Great, well I'm glad you are certain about something, me not so much.
I do believe that by our own action we lead by example, we make the BIG difference. The reports are fodder. We create our reality by living our
example.
This is a very sad event.
Gabriel González Lazcano the victim has passed, and Juan Leonardo Zamudio López who is the alleged shooter is in jail.
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Leo
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And this just after the anouncement that Southern Baja is one of the 5 safest places in mexico?
The grass is always greener....
and so, there is always a better spot in Baja
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CortezBlue
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I am tired of the violence in Mexico vs USA syndrome. Every shooting is not about the cartel
Please look at any city in the USA and you will find the same, TYPES, of murders.
I live in Phoenix and I can tell you in the past 24 hours there were several murders. www.azcentral.com
I take a Spanish class with my son, who attends, ASU, and he told me that his room mate found a murdered body on campus Tuesday night??
I never even heard about it on the news. However, this event, the shooting in Cabo, and the shooting of the hair dressers in Acapulco were broadcast
over and over as "The Battle of the Border"
If USA news outlets broadcast murder statistics about the USA the same as they do about Mexico, you wouldn't want to get out of bed.
We have a house in San Felipe and I love it when some of the old time gringos willl tell new folks who come to town about the 3 Americans murdered in
San Felipe.
They tell the story of the couple out of San Diego that came to SF for the weekend.
The gals husband found out she went to SF with a boyfriend.
He followed them down and found the hotel they were staying at and he killed them both and then shot himself to death.
This event happened in 1976.
If you really want to be concerned, start following the de-valuation of the dollar and the correlation of the devaluation and the price of gas. The
USA is going down the toilet and the current administration wants you to look everywhere but where the true issues are. Mexico Violence, Birth
Certificates, Oil Spills, Middle East. It is what any great magician does, look at the right hand while the left hand is doing the trick.
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latina
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This morning's Sudcaliforniano states that the accused killer left Cabo San Lucas the same morning as the shooting on a Calafia flight at 10am to
Culiacan, Sinaloa. The article says the 9mm gun is for the exclusive use of the Mexican army, airforce and navy.
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Malbertot65
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Be Aware
Clarification!!!
It is unfortunate how the police can accuse someone without any evidence.
All tourist be alert because this may happen to you, police in Los Cabos is corrupted.
The guy who`s been charged with this crime is a ordinary honest working person that has nothing to do with the murder. Instead actual killer is on the
loose laughing at everyone for this huge mistake the police is making.
It is not of common sense to publish immediately the picture and name of alleged murdered so he knows the police is chasing him and runs away, of
course not. The only reason to do so is to calm down public opinion and family.
This is another example of "Presumed Guilty" a film that you must watch to realize how the police can set you up and charge you with crimes you didn't
do.
What is going to happen when looking at video from the hotel lobby the killer is someone else, would the police realize they made a mistake and lost
time chasing an innocent person?
What about the victims? in this case there a right now two victims, the person that unfortunately has died and the scapegoat.
Who is defending the victims?, is it right for the murdered person family that police is losing precious time chasing the wrong person? will this
bring them comfort, will this bring them justice? No way.
What about the person allegedly charged with a crime he didn't committ?, is this justice? No way.
Please be aware of this message and think about how the police works in Mexico.
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Cypress
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Malbertot65
It is unfortunate how the police can accuse someone without any evidence.
All tourist be alert because this may happen to you, police in Los Cabos is corrupted.
The guy who`s been charged with this crime is a ordinary honest working person that has nothing to do with the murder. Instead actual killer is on the
loose laughing at everyone for this huge mistake the police is making.
It is not of common sense to publish immediately the picture and name of alleged murdered so he knows the police is chasing him and runs away, of
course not. The only reason to do so is to calm down public opinion and family.
This is another example of "Presumed Guilty" a film that you must watch to realize how the police can set you up and charge you with crimes you didn't
do.
What is going to happen when looking at video from the hotel lobby the killer is someone else, would the police realize they made a mistake and lost
time chasing an innocent person?
What about the victims? in this case there a right now two victims, the person that unfortunately has died and the scapegoat.
Who is defending the victims?, is it right for the murdered person family that police is losing precious time chasing the wrong person? will this
bring them comfort, will this bring them justice? No way.
What about the person allegedly charged with a crime he didn't committed?, is this justice? No way.
Please be aware of this message and think about how the police works in Mexico. |
you must be friend or relative of the accused, eh?
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tripledigitken
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Would you add some background/context to this?
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krafty
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So Cortez, let me get this straight-the oil spill, middle east, birther nonsense, price of gas, and the mexican violence are all due to the current
administration, and they are supposed to be keeping all this alive to keep our minds off of the crummy economy?
Boy, please explain this-musta missed something.
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CortezBlue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by krafty
So Cortez, let me get this straight-the oil spill, middle east, birther nonsense, price of gas, and the mexican violence are all due to the current
administration, and they are supposed to be keeping all this alive to keep our minds off of the crummy economy?
Boy, please explain this-musta missed something. |
Fear is how Govt, Dictatorships and monarchys have ruled for years, it is nothing new. Maybe it make more sense to me because of my history major,
but I will leave it up to you to do some research and make your own decisions.
PS the further devaluation of the dollar through dillution and the fact that oil is ONLY purchased and traded using US dollars will see $6-$7 gas by
years end. (lower dollar value requires more dollars to pay for a barrel of oil)
We have started on a roller coaster ride that has left the station and there is no turning back.
Also keep an eye on China. They will announce soon that they will back the Yuan with gold. This will cause MAJOR financial damage to you and I in
the states.
Don't take my word for anything, but at least take some time to study the global condition
[Edited on 4-28-2011 by CortezBlue]
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slimshady
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I sure baja south is tens time safer than Los Angeles, Santa Ana, or even San Diego.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Malbertot65
Clarification!!!
It is unfortunate how the police can accuse someone without any evidence.
All tourist be alert because this may happen to you, police in Los Cabos is corrupted.
The guy who`s been charged with this crime is a ordinary honest working person that has nothing to do with the murder. Instead actual killer is on the
loose laughing at everyone for this huge mistake the police is making.
It is not of common sense to publish immediately the picture and name of alleged murdered so he knows the police is chasing him and runs away, of
course not. The only reason to do so is to calm down public opinion and family.
This is another example of "Presumed Guilty" a film that you must watch to realize how the police can set you up and charge you with crimes you didn't
do.
What is going to happen when looking at video from the hotel lobby the killer is someone else, would the police realize they made a mistake and lost
time chasing an innocent person?
What about the victims? in this case there a right now two victims, the person that unfortunately has died and the scapegoat.
Who is defending the victims?, is it right for the murdered person family that police is losing precious time chasing the wrong person? will this
bring them comfort, will this bring them justice? No way.
What about the person allegedly charged with a crime he didn't committ?, is this justice? No way.
Please be aware of this message and think about how the police works in Mexico. |
Nobody has been "charged", theres two people detained for questioning, thats all.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by slimshady
I sure baja south is tens time safer than Los Angeles, Santa Ana, or even San Diego. |
So....what's your point? Did you ever look into the ethnic base and actual citizenship of the gangs in the areas you reference? If they shoveled all
Mexico's trash back over the border where it came from, you probably wouldn't be able to make statements like that with any accuracy.
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Bajafun777
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Wow, Dennis not sure you really meant to put the wording as you did since you are living basically surrounded by Mexicans. Sometimes, I worry about a
few of you on this board getting wording posted while upset or just not proof reading what you write before posting it.
Not trying to get you upset or mad just concerned for your personal safety if these postings were used in the wrong manner by someone to enrage others
in your current living area towards you. Be Safe and Hope no harm or twisting of what I am saying is taken. Take Care & Travel Safe--- "No
Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN," bajafun777
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajafun777
Wow, Dennis not sure you really meant to put the wording as you did since you are living basically surrounded by Mexicans. |
I meant just what I said. If they could take all of the illegals out of the gangs NOB, it would be a safer, better world.....particularly in Santa
Ana, San Diego and LA as mentioned above.
My reference wasn't toward Mexicans in general, but illegal, Mexican gang-bangers in particular. No one can deny the fact that the rank and file of
the gangs is heavily influenced by this element.
Thanks for your concern. I appreciate it.
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Bajafun777
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Dennis, thanks for being more specific in your response. I knew what you were talking about but others not engaged in the gang issues would think
something different. Seems with strong statements especially on this site you have to be very specific at times,LOL> Take Care &
Travel Safe--- " No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777
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slimshady
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Dennis most gang members are not mexican illegals. They are are of Mexican decent with US citizenship. They are Asians, Black, and White. All the
groups listed above have contributed to the criminal world. Mexican gang bangers mostly operate south of the border, the Sureno gangs operate North of
the in cooperation of EME to move and distribute Narcotics north. Its business and our US born hispanics partake in it along with our white gangs.
Deporting illegal gang members would not even be a drop in the bucket.
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Borregoman
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I can't wait to use that Burrito line Woody...thanks!
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
it has been said. "you don't fight one bean, you gotta fight the whole burrito."
translation=Mexicans feel like they gotta jump one guy 5-1 to make themselves feel macho..... true story. |
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mojo_norte
victim = gringo tourist? - probably not |
http://www.insidethegate.com/gatehouse/2011/04/international...
This was sent to me by a friend, who actually was staying at the Pueblo Bonito Los Cabos when this happened.
I'm guessing that while this may not be a cartel involved hit, it does tend to show that "certain folks" on the mainland who find themselves with a
wad of cash, will do what anyone might do. Go to a world-class resort and party.
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