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Cypress
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choyero, Down where? That's the downside of fishing in many places, too many
fishermen. Have about quit fishing on weekends.
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acadist
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Fished La Paz 4 days, did not see any The pangueros say they are out there
but small.
Dave
I moved to CO and they made me buy a little rod to make it feel like a real fish
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Pescador
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I hate to chime in here, but probably will anyway. I am so tired of hearing how the fishing is over in the Sea of Cortez and all of the "Chicken
Little End of the World" philosophers thinking that because the yellowtail fishing was slow this winter that the fishing is over for good. We just
finished a strong La Nina year and the yellowtail fishing in the Santa Rosalia area was very bad after November, but when the water started warming up
in the last few weeks the fishing has been wide open. One of the buyers in San Bruno told me today that he processed over 300 Kilos of Yellowtail
just today and we saw at least 25 pangueros and probably 10 Norteamericano boats at Tortuga today and most of the guys were bent over screaming about
how hard the fish pull as they groaned and brought another fish to the boat.
While I think that overall populations are way down, the ocean is a pretty adaptive place and the fish are responding primarily to availability of
forage and comfortable temps.
There are some dorado starting to show, but it is way too early for them in our area and we need to get up to 74 degree water before we see any
concentrations of them. Same with Marlin, and although one was caught at Tortuga yesterday, it is still too early for any serious concentration yet.
But the Yellowtail are here and have a great appetite.
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Russ
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Good post Jim. That's what I was looking for.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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yellowklr
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
I hate to chime in here, but probably will anyway. I am so tired of hearing how the fishing is over in the Sea of Cortez and all of the "Chicken
Little End of the World" philosophers thinking that because the yellowtail fishing was slow this winter that the fishing is over for good. We just
finished a strong La Nina year and the yellowtail fishing in the Santa Rosalia area was very bad after November, but when the water started warming up
in the last few weeks the fishing has been wide open. One of the buyers in San Bruno told me today that he processed over 300 Kilos of Yellowtail
just today and we saw at least 25 pangueros and probably 10 Norteamericano boats at Tortuga today and most of the guys were bent over screaming about
how hard the fish pull as they groaned and brought another fish to the boat.
While I think that overall populations are way down, the ocean is a pretty adaptive place and the fish are responding primarily to availability of
forage and comfortable temps.
There are some dorado starting to show, but it is way too early for them in our area and we need to get up to 74 degree water before we see any
concentrations of them. Same with Marlin, and although one was caught at Tortuga yesterday, it is still too early for any serious concentration yet.
But the Yellowtail are here and have a great appetite.
Marlin at Tortuga yesterday or a DODO?
[Edited on 5-7-2011 by yellowklr] |
Derek
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Cypress
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Pescador, The resident fish in the Sea of Cortez have been netted and hooked into dwindling numbers. Smaller weights(got to be small enough to pass
trough a gill net) are the norm. You know it and I know it. Having to await the arrival of a pelagic species says enough. Hope they arrive and provide
a few days of good fishing. I'm just telling it like it is. Chicken Little? Maybe? Hope so. Good luck.
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Arturo
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Thanks Jim, See you in San Lucas Cove if you plan to enter the Tourney.
This time Im not gonna sit so close to the Ice Cooler
"Last years EXPLODING PACIFICO" all most got me. Guess putting a hot beer into a Cold freezer makes em explode.
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Pescador
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Pescador, The resident fish in the Sea of Cortez have been netted and hooked into dwindling numbers. Smaller weights(got to be small enough to pass
trough a gill net) are the norm. You know it and I know it. Having to await the arrival of a pelagic species says enough. Hope they arrive and provide
a few days of good fishing. I'm just telling it like it is. Chicken Little? Maybe? Hope so. Good luck. |
That dig was not at you guys, I enjoyed meeting you when you came by and your experience of how the fish stocks are dwindling is pretty much accurate.
But your assessment of what goes on here is pretty limited and you need to spend a lot of time on the water to really assess what is happening. Some
species like Spotted Bay Bass are very healthy and need to be thinned out a little to keep from runting up the whole species. Cabrilla, grouper, and
the like have been overharvested for years due to the price and are very difficult to catch, but they can be found if you know where to look. What
you really needed to do was to spend some time and learn the area before declaring it the "Dead Sea".
It is possible to get to areas where the fishing is pretty much as it always was, but it takes a long time and makes for a long boat ride to get out
of the area where the pangueros pound the population day after day. They will only range as far as they can afford to go with the current market
price of fish.
Now, my real peeve is with the netters who indiscriminately kill everything that gets caught in the net. I know fishermen who do quite well with a
rod and reel or handline and on a good year they might catch 1/2 to 3/4 of a ton of fish, whereas the netters will do 10-15 tons in a week. The other
thing that happens is that a line fisherman might find a school of fish that numbers in the hundreds and only a few of those fish can be enticed to
eat the bait, whereas the netters wrap up every fish caught in the net but so do the seals and if a fish gets destroyed in the process and is not able
to be taken to the market, they just throw them out and waste a lot of the resource. Same thing with fish that spoil before they can get it to the
buyer.
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Cypress
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Pescador, You're right about the fishing. We appreciated your hospitality and enjoyed our visit. Good luck with everything.
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LaTijereta
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Dorado Fishing Picking Up > Off Loreto
Nice schools of fish are showing up about 10 miles off Punta Lobos..
Schools are producing some size fish,as the season kicks off!
[Edited on 6-2-2011 by LaTijereta]
Democracy is like two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
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BajaBlanca
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guess what !! dorado caught !! about 40 dorado caught 6 to 10 miles out of san bruno yesterday by domingo and joaquin and juanchys and dave and
derek and chris .... i am sure there will be a full report by derek once he is home but HE IS STILL FISHING !!!! most of the fish were released
according to juanchys.
Les brought home some yellowtail - he and Pancho caught two 25 pounders and a 10 pound cabrilla. and they lost dorados 
the group is already planning their next trip for next month ...
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LaTortuga
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Mukege dorado tournament was last weekend. Check out that thread and for photos look at:
https://picasaweb.google.com/103067609953593131642/Photos?au...
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LaTortuga
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It would be better if I spelled Mulege correctly
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Cypress:
I see that you are still Posting all your Negative ideas about the Sea of Cortez!
it does my Ole heart Good to see that you are still as "Full of Puckey as a Christmas Turkey"!
Keep on fishing that Great Sea of cortez. there is lots of Fish and you d just have to get out there and Look for them instead of setting at home and
Asking someone else!
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Cypress
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Skeet/Loreto, Pelagics come and go with the seasons. Dorado are pelagics. The average size will be smaller, but there might be a lot of 'em. The
snapper and grouper are resident fish. They live on the reefs, wrecks, rock piles, etc. They're gone. Negative? No, just reality. And I've been there,
found out for myself. Maybe you ought to go back down there, see for yourself and quit seeing things as they were 50 years ago?
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yellowklr
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40 Dorado 15 miles out of Chivato.....Average around 15 pounds
Kept Mexican Limits for the vacuum packer
Derek
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Curt63
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Yep, they are SLAYING the yellowtail in the 30-40# range south of BOLA the last several days.
I cant check my facebook without fresh pictures of the YT fest in paradise....
12 more wake ups!!!!!
No worries
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bajajurel
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That's a shame! Les has to go to the other side to fish? What happened in LB?
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
guess what !! dorado caught !! about 40 dorado caught 6 to 10 miles out of san bruno yesterday by domingo and joaquin and juanchys and dave and
derek and chris .... i am sure there will be a full report by derek once he is home but HE IS STILL FISHING !!!! most of the fish were released
according to juanchys.
Les brought home some yellowtail - he and Pancho caught two 25 pounders and a 10 pound cabrilla. and they lost dorados
the group is already planning their next trip for next month ...
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Loretana
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I have the strange feeling that Bill Erhardt is way out in the "blue water" past Punta Lobos on Soledad walking around in the DODOS.
I sure wish he would give us a report.
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
-Nikola Tesla
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LaTijereta
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
I have the strange feeling that Bill Erhardt is way out in the "blue water" past Punta Lobos on Soledad walking around in the DODOS.
I sure wish he would give us a report. |
Rumor is that he has a new dog in training to be able to gaff his fish on the boat when he's out there...
[Edited on 6-8-2011 by LaTijereta]
Democracy is like two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
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