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DENNIS
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Here are some interesting revelations from a former Mexican foreign minister.............
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.......who is so far out to the left I thought he fell over the side.
Smart man, in spite of that.
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I know this is overgeneralizing... but I think it's a lot like the politics of New Orleans. The people there openly elect crooks year after year- so
long as they as "good crooks" (meaning they are corrupt and take bribes but don't get caught red-handed). Stupid crooks (those who do corruption badly
and get caught) aren't elected twice. "Everyone like's a good crook" they say down there. They don't come out and say that in Mexico, but it sure
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Here are some interesting revelations from a former Mexican foreign minister:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/19/entertainment/la-ca-... |
yup, what he said...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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I know this is overgeneralizing... but I think it's a lot like the politics of New Orleans. The people there openly elect crooks year after year- so
long as they as "good crooks" (meaning they are corrupt and take bribes but don't get caught red-handed). Stupid crooks (those who do corruption badly
and get caught) aren't elected twice. "Everyone like's a good crook" they say down there. They don't come out and say that in Mexico, but it sure
looks like that's the dynamic here too. |
Here are some interesting revelations from a former Mexican foreign minister:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/19/entertainment/la-ca-... |
yup, what he said... |
That guy who wrote that book " Maņana Forever" Jorge Castaņeda sounds like a sniveling self-loathing Mexican vendido!( sell-out)
The Black community have a few of those kind like Castaņeda too. For example, author Thomas Sowell, ex-California Regent Ward Connerly, and Supreme
Justice Clarence Thomas all do the black community great damage with their support of ultra conservatives polices that are often hostile to the Black
community. You will often see white right-wingers trot out Thomas Sowell or something he wrote because he is black, and it's supposedly gives the
written piece more weight because it's written by a Black. The thing about Thomas Sowell, is that his kind of thinking doesn't reflect the thinking in
the black community at all, especially given the fact Blacks vote democrat 90 percent strong and many blacks would gladly spit in Sowell's face
because they disagree with his right-wing thinking so vehemently.
Jorge Castaņeda could write anything he wants, but I wouldn't exactly give Castaņeda's views any more merit than any other writer who writes about
Mexico just because he is Mexican. The fact is Castaņeda views don't reflect most Mexicans views, especially when they are negativity stereotyped
where he blames all of Mexico's problems on a "manana attitude!" I myself would personally spit on Jorge Castaņeda if I ever heard him espouse those
racist simplistic stereotypes for all the ills of Mexico. The reason being is because I know that Dave, Woooosh and their ilk eat stuff like this up,
and believe it's all true. How about blaming abject poverty or other reasons than a bigoted maņana attitude?
Guys like Jorge Castaņeda have found a niche writing books like "Maņana Forever" that really only negatively reinforce old racist stereotypes for
people who don't know a thing about Mexico, and these kind of books aren't written for Mexicans anyway.
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I think Hank Rhon if he runs for Governor has a pretty good shot on winning.
I think there are a lot of people who just can't get over the fact the Mexican District attorney had a very weak case against Rhon, and just about
everybody in Mexico, although many think Rhon is a criminal or has drug cartel ties. Many if not most Mexicans think this was a set-up and the
Military made up a pretext reason for breaking into Rhon's home without a search warrant.
I myself could care less they found weapons in Rhon's house, what I care about ,and I think many Mexicans feel the same way. Is that I care about the
military running roughshod in Baja and doing virtually anything they want with impunity.
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Jorge Castaņeda thinks he knows, he doesn't, what a loser.
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Jorge Castaņeda thinks he knows, he doesn't, what a loser. |
What he says makes sense as much as anything else I have seen or heard to explain the Mexico I see. Mexico isn't that old from a national or
political perspective. He bases the book, in part- on the sociological progression Mexico should have made by now given it's prime location and
natural resources. Manana...
[Edited on 6-21-2011 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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A Tale Of Two Countries
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He bases the book, in part- on the sociological progression Mexico should have made by now given it's prime location and natural resources. Manana...
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Great piece for as far as it goes. Too shallow for the topic- but shows the point to be made. You could extrapolate a book from that essay. Did
Fulano go from "peanut gallery" to "big cheese" at the Reader or something?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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One of the biggest mistakes, is thinking most Mexicans blame the US for their problems. Trust me, the US is not an issue at all for the average
Mexican.
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One of the biggest mistakes, is thinking most Mexicans blame the US for their problems. Trust me, the US is not an issue at all for the average
Mexican. |
Of course, the government will say different. They are the ones who need the scapegoat.
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One of the biggest mistakes, is thinking most Mexicans blame the US for their problems. Trust me, the US is not an issue at all for the average
Mexican. |
Of course, the government will say different. They are the ones who need the scapegoat. |
Don't you know? we don't give a rats ass about what the goverment says.
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Don't you know? we don't give a rats burro about what the goverment says. |
I'm glad to hear that. 
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