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[*] posted on 9-11-2004 at 02:08 PM
How hard?


Do any of you think that a trip in Kayak from BOLA to Loreto could be?



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[*] posted on 9-11-2004 at 04:42 PM
I don't know,how hard is it?


Hola Jesse, Back in `86 Valerie Fons rowed a sea kayak from San Diego to Yuma AZ. all along the Baja coast,maybe you could read her book(Keep it Moving) and discover how she did it...I don't know if your male or female,but if this young lady did it how hard could it be?There are many people who kayak Baja and write about their trips.good luck



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[*] posted on 9-11-2004 at 05:23 PM


That would be a great trip, but you know your gonna wanna see it all. Leave from La Paz and go to LA Bay. Either way it would be a blast. To have enough time and the right people, that would be a trip....A lot of logistical things to consider, best time of year, full moon, ect...
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[*] posted on 9-11-2004 at 05:44 PM
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There is a guy named Kayaker John, his brother lives at Daggets in BOLA and he hangs out there sometimes, He has done all of that and is a world class adventure kayaker. If you could get in contact with him, maybe through Daggets I am sure he could give you some straight scoop. I takked with him several times last year and he knows Baja water. Maybe someone on here knows his e-mail or could put you in contact.



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[*] posted on 9-11-2004 at 05:56 PM
Isn't going fom La Paz


to Bahia de los Angeles sort of an "uphill run" so to speak?
Jesse, are you personally interested and if so, what time of year ?:light:
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[*] posted on 9-11-2004 at 06:34 PM
up hill down hill


Hey JR, I see Jesse is asking about BOLA to Loreto,he would be going down hill ...oh yea JR did you ever get the E-mail of you with the dogs?



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[*] posted on 9-12-2004 at 05:37 AM
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read Marv Patchen's book, "baja by land air and sea"

what they, 2 couples, did on kayaks is incredible! and in the 60's before a lot was known about it in that area. and with out all the hi tech fance stuff you can get at REI sports now.




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[*] posted on 9-12-2004 at 06:54 AM
I was referring to Loco's comment


but 2 years ago, we met 2 couples in their late 60's from Germany doing the trip. They were experienced kayakers and the trip wasn't without incident but they seemed to be having a blast.
They baked us bread at Agua Verde of all things!
I did receive the dog photos. It brought back memories indeed. Like what my finger looked like before I remodeled it with the hatchet hahahahahahahahaha

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thumbup.gif posted on 9-12-2004 at 08:20 AM
The Ultimate Kayak trip


You have to read Dana and Ginger Lamb's book " Enchanted Vagabonds". They traveled from Long Beach down and up the Cortez, down the eastside to the Panama canal:wow: This all took place in the 1930's, and is a great read, with some nice photos of Baja. The trip was in a 16' home made canoe, that Dana built.
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You can find their books through Barnes and Noble "out of print" books
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[*] posted on 9-12-2004 at 01:37 PM
One more kayak book


Sea Kayaking in Baja by Andromeda Romano-Lax...15 complete trips with original maps,equipment suggestions and prepartion tips...enjoy



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[*] posted on 9-12-2004 at 08:30 PM


Cap'n Mike--I've read Marv Pachen's book--some great adventures in there including the double kayak! Good book!
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[*] posted on 9-12-2004 at 09:25 PM


Yes everybody, this is a trip i personally would want to make, originally i planned on doing the San Felipe to Cabo route, but i think BOLA to Loreto is a good first trip to make.





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[*] posted on 9-12-2004 at 10:18 PM
Here's Marv (with microphone) and I am holding that book...


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Originally posted by Mexitron
Cap'n Mike--I've read Marv Pachen's book--some great adventures in there including the double kayak! Good book!





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[*] posted on 9-13-2004 at 09:51 AM


Definitely doable. Same concerns as with any kayak trip - weather, skill and water. Coastal kayaking Baja has been done by many. Need to do your homework fer shur.
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[*] posted on 9-15-2004 at 09:52 AM
Marv's "kayaks" were powered, weren't they?


Havent read the book in some time, but I thought he lashed two canoes together with spars and created a platform in between. He then used some old Swedish outboards as a method of propulsion. Not true kayaking, in the traditional sense, but still an amazing adventure.

There are a few commercial outfits that have done the trip you are contemplating and longer ones over the years. Usually they take place in the winter months to reduce the heat exposure. With that in mind, they are almost always traveling north to south so the prevailing winds are at their back.

The tides will be a significant issue, if leaving from BOLA.
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[*] posted on 9-15-2004 at 06:29 PM


That is correct... they also called the boats canoes and not kayaks I think. They looked like long canoes to me.

When I went to Remedios (Guadalupe)... I saw the cave they camped in... Graham camped in there too, I believe.




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[*] posted on 9-15-2004 at 08:06 PM
Deffinitely doable, but can be dangerous


I have provided logistics for a small group of kayakers (2-3 people) for several years---- the group I have helped has circumnavigated the entire peninsula, and is now working on the Sonora Coast. It is certainly an adventure. Fresh water is the main problem. That was my main function---supplying fresh water as often as possible along the way. Check the tide charts, weather patterns, try to run with the prevailing winds (usually N to S), have a land-based support group (if feasible), and 2-way radios are handy. My group even had a Sat-phone for emergencies---never had to use it, tho. My group had a wonderful time. Plan carefully. The stretch you are planning took my group about 3 weeks to make. You might want to break the trip up into three trips-----BOLA to Santa Rosalia, and Santa Rosalia to Loreto. Then, the best of all, Loreto to La Paz. Barry
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[*] posted on 9-15-2004 at 09:24 PM


Thanks Barry, lost of issues to consider, what are the main hazards to watch for in your opinion?
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[*] posted on 9-15-2004 at 11:01 PM
Lack of Fresh Water


Jesse, without a doubt in my mind the biggest hazard is being pinned down by high winds, sometimes for several days, and not having enough fresh water. I resupplied my group about every 3 to 5 days, if possible, and it ususally was. They carried water in bladders, and had at least a gallon per person per day. The stretches between Los Barriles and Santa Rosalia, and again between Agua Verde and La Paz, were the longest without resupply. and actually there is a resupply point mid-way along each stretch, but it is hard for the land-based vehicles to reach them. If you pull a muscle during one of those long stretches, it can get a little hairy. I sometimes carried a 14 foot Gregor with 15 hp outboard on top of my rig, which could be used for a rescue, but was never necessary. Them having the SAT phone sure made us ALL feel better. I am not a kayaker, so really should not be giving any more advice, but you should talk to some of the folks that do this often for details. My group members come from Washington state, and Arizona. My group encountered high winds several times, and it really goofed up schedules and time lines. They usually make their runs in Baja during April, May and even into June. Barry
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