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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 06:51 AM


can you make this simpleer for us "simpletons"

you have a repeater antenna with some kind of solar power source
and another antenna
or
just a repeater on a hill

then the cell phone works?

soooo
total cost?

is the source in the usa or in mexico




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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 07:47 AM


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Udo try this you need to cut and paste the bottom part of the url, but try this tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/7suee7s

Mengano: probably because with the 5-600 feet needed there would be about a 35-40 db loss in gain. Plus its really rocky up on the hill it would be really tough to bury the cable. Too many unwanted cattle in the area too!

Mike: Skype/Magic Jack don't work worth a @#$% using Sat internet. Actually the Iphone Viber app works better than any of them, still lots of dropout, weird compression artifacts and bad intelligbility.


Not sure it will help with your system and location but there is a Skype app for the Iphone - I use it on mine here in the states and it works great whether I am connected via the cell system or WiFi. Jim
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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 09:07 AM


my nephew is in belgium. we were in phx yesterday.
we did video call with him yesterday, us on a HP laptop using wifi and him on his smart phone with skype app.

worked perfectly.




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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 09:57 AM


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my nephew is in belgium. we were in phx yesterday.
we did video call with him yesterday, us on a HP laptop using wifi and him on his smart phone with skype app.

worked perfectly.


Mike, what does any of that have to do with satellite Internet connections?

Skype, or any VoIP solution does not work well over, say, starband. Barely usable, actually, really can't have a normal conversation.

Hello. Over.
Hi mike. Over.
How are things down there. Over.

Im chatting works great.
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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 10:32 AM


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When an rf signal is transmitted from a simple antenna, the signal radiates in all directions


What about a Yagi?


Simple antenna was the theory. The most gain you can get from a Yagi is about 10dB, and they are very directional, which is not good for a cell phone installation. In addition, Yagi's are only good over a narrow bandwidth. Cellphones operate between 800 and 1900 MHz. You couldn't tune a Yagi to handle multiple frequencies.

Most everyone reading this is getting their internet signal through miles of coax cable with no problem.


You theory, correct? Aren't we talking about a specific use vs a generalized, public repeater system? There are plenty of signal booster systems sold that use Yagis. You have to buy the one for the cell system you're on. Anyway, I am now just arguing for it's own sake, so I'll just shut up.

FYI: http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/cable/coaxperf.html
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[*] posted on 11-25-2011 at 02:44 PM


I am sure that astrobaja has tried everything he can think of to have telephone in his remote location. It's pretty cool that he found something to make it work. I feel really fortunate that Magicjack works acceptablly for me down here in BoLA using Starbands $50 a month service. The times they are a changing and for the most part it just keeps getting better.
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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 09:36 AM


Hi all,

Well like the thread title says this is "our" solution, there certainly could be others! We wanted to have reception all around our house so that any guests could use their cell if they wished. Since we are at 5000' elevation the nearest cell tower in Camalu is about 50 km away. Sometimes when theres a thick coastal marine layer the signal used to vary wildly.
For in the house we are going to get a blue tooth base station so we don't need to be at the window facing the hill to get a signal (our thick adobe walls work against us in terms of signal penetration).
Bob and Susan I don't know the total cost yet as my Brother in law sourced it all in San Diego. I imagine it will be around the $850 mark. Theres the 2 antennae, the battery, small charge controller, the electronics box, a thick cable, and the amp which is the big dollar item. If anyone wants a list and cost breakdown PM me and I will get it for you.

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[*] posted on 11-26-2011 at 10:14 PM


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I am sure that astrobaja has tried everything he can think of to have telephone in his remote location. It's pretty cool that he found something to make it work. I feel really fortunate that Magicjack works acceptablly for me down here in BoLA using Starbands $50 a month service. The times they are a changing and for the most part it just keeps getting better.
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Yep, you sure are. I have tried MagicJack on several Starband and Hughes systems in different locations in Baja. The best analogy I could use is that a personal conversation could work. A business call - no way.

Have you tried BGAN? Not necessarily that much faster down, but low latency. Supports video streaming (up) too. And it's a tiny terminal that can be set up in a new location in minutes with no additional equipment. Too bad it's so darn expensive, I'm hoping it will get cheaper.
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