DavidE
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A Nice Surprise And Then :(
On the way to Vizcaino Today From Asunción
Only to arrive in Guerrero Negro to find NO ELECTRICITY for four hours. The inside of La Ballena supermarket looked like something out of a
Horror Flick with at least 100,000 flies and that is most likely The Understatement Of The Year
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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David K
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Less than a month after the govenor went over it! Good stuff!
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Carratera de Cargo de SCT. Federal funds. Those rusting signs slapping themselves on the back for ¡Vive Mejor! a better road, are a good clue. Now
that the PRI is headed back to the peso slop trough, fare thee well those governments and folks who voted in Perradistas and Priistas. Federal funding
is going to get mighty lean come December at the start of a new sexenio.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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acadist
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Does this mean I won't have to test my slalom skills next month?
Dave
I moved to CO and they made me buy a little rod to make it feel like a real fish
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DavidE
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¿Quien Sabe?
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Bajaboy
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Let's just hope they do a decent job....otherwise it will revert to Tecate Highway in no time
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BajaBlanca
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you are right - good and then very BAD.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Let's just hope they do a decent job....otherwise it will revert to Tecate Highway in no time |
What happened to the Tecate Highway?
Highways that were paved too thin and fell into pothole hell in the past have been Hwy. 1 south of Cataviña, late 70's early 80's, The Bahia de los
Angeles highway of the 1980's and most famous, the San Felipe to Puertecitos first highway of the the 1990's.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Let's just hope they do a decent job....otherwise it will revert to Tecate Highway in no time |
What happened to the Tecate Highway?
Highways that were paved too thin and fell into pothole hell in the past have been Hwy. 1 south of Cataviña, late 70's early 80's, The Bahia de los
Angeles highway of the 1980's and most famous, the San Felipe to Puertecitos first highway of the the 1990's. |
DK, note I did not say The Tecate Highway rather Tecate Highway...the later refers to a pot-holed road that is much more driveable with a cold Tecate
in hand.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Let's just hope they do a decent job....otherwise it will revert to Tecate Highway in no time |
What happened to the Tecate Highway?
Highways that were paved too thin and fell into pothole hell in the past have been Hwy. 1 south of Cataviña, late 70's early 80's, The Bahia de los
Angeles highway of the 1980's and most famous, the San Felipe to Puertecitos first highway of the the 1990's. |
DK, note I did not say The Tecate Highway rather Tecate Highway...the later refers to a pot-holed road that is much more driveable with a cold Tecate
in hand. |
Okay BB, understood! Never heard the term 'Tecate Highway' meaning a pot holed road before... thanks!
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surfer jim
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Note to self: Do not take road to Tecate...too much driving and drinking.
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thebajarunner
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The main problem with Mexican road that deteriorate is not the thickness of the pavement but the base preparation under the pavement.
You have to lay down a calculated amount of base rock and then achieve a proper level of compaction.
Base is generally crushed rock, or river bed rock and compaction is achieved through water and rolling.
They tend not to haul in the proper base rock, and water is always at a premium.... thus, insufficient base to support the pavement.
You can pave over "native soil" if it is sufficiently sandy, but again it requires a lot of water and compaction rolling.
Thus ends the lesson....
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acadist
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Doug, can we get a 'like' button
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Let's just hope they do a decent job....otherwise it will revert to Tecate Highway in no time |
What happened to the Tecate Highway?
Highways that were paved too thin and fell into pothole hell in the past have been Hwy. 1 south of Cataviña, late 70's early 80's, The Bahia de los
Angeles highway of the 1980's and most famous, the San Felipe to Puertecitos first highway of the the 1990's. |
DK, note I did not say The Tecate Highway rather Tecate Highway...the later refers to a pot-holed road that is much more driveable with a cold Tecate
in hand. |
Dave
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
The main problem with Mexican road that deteriorate is not the thickness of the pavement but the base preparation under the pavement.
You have to lay down a calculated amount of base rock and then achieve a proper level of compaction.
Base is generally crushed rock, or river bed rock and compaction is achieved through water and rolling.
They tend not to haul in the proper base rock, and water is always at a premium.... thus, insufficient base to support the pavement.
You can pave over "native soil" if it is sufficiently sandy, but again it requires a lot of water and compaction rolling.
Thus ends the lesson.... |
For this road, water no problem--- they just suck up all the salty lagoon water they want. Proper base rock? Well that remains to be seen. 
What I find interesting about all the roads in the area is that they are built in stages and after a few years it is easy to see who skimped on
materials etc. Which part goes bad first is not the first part built --- there ends up being a real hopscotch pattern.
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surfdoc
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Went into Vizcaino yesterday...........Yep about 3/4 of a mile of newly laid road...
Then it's a scene out of the "HurtLocker" ...Be warned.. drink your Tecate before starting on this road... Your gonna need both hands to avoid the
Bomb Craters............
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