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I was under the impression that putting one shock in front of the axle and one behide reduced axle wrap. Probaly at an angle. On Tacoma World someone
said by using a U bolt clamp on the leaf springs would reduce axle wrap.
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Nice work.
I'm not familar with the Nissan rear brakes, are they disc or are you putting after market disc on?
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That's going to be one sweet Baja ride! Keep up the posts
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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Are you planning on one or two spares? What size tire will you run.
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Nice work Glenn...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Why a four wheel drive if you are racing this truck? There can't be very many Class 7 or any racing trucks with 4WD, are there?
If there is a class that is only 4WD (Class 3?) that you can compete in, great! I do love 4WD... but that is for slower driving... to save the parts
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The exception. 1999 Baja 1000 class 8 winner was a 4wd F150.
Score class 3 is a dying class, but the remaining competitors are running 37" tires and over 500 Hp. Class 7 is less expensive with more reasonable
rigs.
Anyway 4wd is great for finishing, but will always be slower than 2wd, The race is against the course anyway. Just finishing is a win.
Good to see a nice build.
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Glenn, is this still being built for racing or just fun/ prerunning?
Paul, back when I was involved more in SCORE, Class 8 was 2WD only. 4WDs were only Class 3 and Class 4 (stock and modified 4WDs, later became short
and long wheelbase 4WDs). Class 4 was dropped.
There are so many classes and they have been changing, I would love to see the current list describing them. When I was in the 1000, Class 6 was
production 2WD, water-cooled, passenger sedans and passenger pickups (Ranchero/ El Camino). Fun class with an Edsel, Saab, Ford Fairlane, Datsun, AMC
Hornet, etc.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
I want to race it but more just to finish.It really isn't being built to any class.I will enter it in "Sportsman" .Needed an excuse to build the thing
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You do have the latest SCORE rulebook, so at least the safety mandates are addressed? I imaging it would be one of the Class 7 trucks, but as I
mentioned, I am not sure about SCORE classes anymore.
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SCORE Classes and Vehicle Numbers for 2013:
40 Pro and 7 Sportsman classes
Class Levels:
PRO LEVEL 1
Trophy Truck Veh #1-99 (Trophy Truck Unlimited)
Class 1 Veh #100-199(Unlimited single or two-seaters)
PRO LEVEL 2
TT Spec Veh #840-848 (Super 8-unlimited trucks/sport utility vehicles, stock, sealed V-8s)
8 Veh #885-899 (Full-sized two-wheel drive trucks)
4000 Veh# 4000-4099 (Class 4limited open-wheel car, 2.2/2.4-Liter Ecotec engine)
4400 Veh# 4400-4099 (Rock Crawler)
5 Unlimited Veh #500-599 (Unlimited Baja Bugs)
12 SCORE Lites Veh #1200-1299 (HDRA Lites-Limited single-1776cc-or two-seaters-1835cc)
Heavy Metal Veh #8000-8099 (Open Production Trucks, V8 engines)
10 Veh #1000-1099 (Single or two-seaters limited engine)
3 Veh #300-399 (Short wheelbase 4X4)
3000 Veh #3000-3099 (Class 78-2,unlimited mini-truck, 2.2/2.4-Liter Ecotec engine)
2 Veh #200-249 (Unlimited open-wheel, car/truck, 3.6-Liter Turbo or supercharged)
2.D Veh #250-299 (Unlimited open-wheel, car/truck, 3.6-Liter Diesel Turbo or supercharged)
1/2-1600 Veh #1600-1699 (single or two-seaters to 1600cc)
Trophy Lite Veh #6000-6099 (Unlimited Mini-Truck, 2.2/2.4-Liter Ecotec engine)
6100 Veh #6100-6199 (Unlimited, Sealed V6)
7200 Veh #7200-7299 (SCORE Class 6 Open Production Unlimited)
7 Veh #700-739 (Open Production Mini Pick-Ups)
Pro Truck Veh #1350-1399 (Limited Production Trucks)
Stock Mini Veh #760-799 (Stock mini trucks)
PRO LEVEL 3
11 Veh #1100-1199 (Stock VW Sedans)
1700 JeepSpeed Veh #1700-1799 (Jeep Speed Challenge)
3700 JeepSpeed Veh #3700-3799 (Jeep Speed Cup)
5-1600 Ltd Veh #500-549 (1600cc Baja Bugs)
7sx Veh #740-759 (Modified, stock mini-trucks)
9 Veh #900-999 (Short wheelbase, single or two-seaters)
Stock Full Veh #885-899 (Stock full-sized trucks)
19 Stock UTV Veh #1900-1949
SPORTSMAN LEVEL 4
Baja Challenge Veh #BC1-BC99 (Spec open wheel cars)
2000 Ltd Truck Veh #2000-2099
1400 Unlimited Open Truck Veh #1400-1499
1500 Unlimited Buggy Veh #1500-1599
19 Unlimited UTV Veh #1950-1999
PRO MOTO & ATV
Ironman (Solo)
20 (400cc or less) 150x-199x
21 (450cc or less) 100x-149x
22 (450cc or more) 1x-49x
30 (Riders over 30 years old) 300x-349x
40 (Riders over 40 years old) 400x-449x
50 (Riders over 50 years old) 500x-549x
60 (Riders over 60 years old) 600x-649x
ATV 24 (450cc or less) 100a-149a
ATV 25 (450cc or more) 1a-49a
ATV 26 (Limited Utility) 200a-219a
SPORTSMAN MOTO & ATV
M/C< (450cc or less) 200x-249x
M/C> (450cc or more) 250x-299x
Sportsman ATV 50a-99a
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I understand there will be changes in 2014 especially in the motorcycle/ATV classes as to engine size. Right now a 450cc motorcycle engine can be used
in every class except 20. A 450cc engine from all the major manufactures is 249cc. I've heard they will change to an over and under 400cc size and
drop class 20.
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Thank you Tom... that list makes my head dizzy! How can anyone who finishes make coin with so many divisions of entries?
Back in the day, it was 50% payback per class*. If there were too few entries in any one class, they would combine classes so the racers could make
some money if they finished in the top positions.
* 20 vehicles in a class, entry fee of $500, $10,000 would be divided half to SCORE and half ($5,000) to the top finishers... 1st place may get $2500,
2nd place gets $1,500, 3rd $800, 4th $200. Or, something like that...
More money would be earned by using products from companies that made products and paid winners to use them. Contingency!
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you don't race to make "coin".
So, Glenn, where do you think that puts you
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Not any more... lol.
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Yup and gas was... What do winners get now?
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Some classes at some races have side bets. Even so you'll never make enough to cover expenses, probably not even the entry fee. Sponsors and either
lots of them or ones with deep pockets.
In the early 90s we spent $75,000 a year to race class 21 motorcycles in SCORE and ran open class in the two Baja Promotion, the desert and GP series,
along with a couple of select races like Mammoth Mtn motocross and Baja Supercross. We got free tires and oil and 50-60% off on almost everything else
like helmets and riding gear, 40% off on Trick Racing gas. Not much discount on the bikes, but OK. We had 4 bikes. 2 KX250s, 1 CR250 and 1 KX500. The
riders used 4 strokes to pre-run on. The boys won 2 SCORE championship and 3 Baja Promotion Championships
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Even the Norra 1000is expensive. Dreaming...... I did a budget to run it and it would be a minimum of 10Gs, spares, entry fees, pit crew for gas
only, tir e s, etc etc.
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Let me know when your ready for a test run Glenn. Nate and I will come out and do some photography for you.
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A quick way to be a millionair !is to have 10 mil and start racing cars
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