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Bajajorge
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Yes Woody, that is exactly what I mean. I didn't open your link, because every time I see it on my TV screen, it makes me almost lose my lunch.
Why do Liberals insist and demand that achievers pay the way for nonachievers who are to lazy to succeed, or are just failures by their own choice?
Criminals prefer unarmed victims, dictators prefer unarmed subjects.
Why do ignorant people continue their blabbering when it only proves to others how stupid they are.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajorge
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I can remember when any mention of Pearl Harbor or Veterans Day would bring an avalanche of patriotic responses here, but today, not so much. I'm
sorry to see this.
It does, however, get worse. The Punta Banda Bulletin Board has tacitly refused to put up the identical post, opting to smother their board with
snooty wine events and finger food partys. That's what's important in Punta Banda.
The irony is, in an email from the administrator, I was told that if I took out the reference to Sushi, she would post it.
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[Edited on 12-7-2012 by DENNIS] |
I can't get to carried away answering this post as it will probably be moved to "Off Topic". So I'll try to be nice.
It is quite apparent that the populace of the USA is shifting quite radically from the "greatest generation" to the "entitlement generation". On
December 7th each year in the past there was massive news coverage of events of remembrance, and movie channels showed numerous 1940s patriotic movies
about the "War in the Pacific". But yesterday the news media only made short comments about Pearl Harbor, and I could only find one movie on TCM about
the subject, AMC was only showing their usual zombie movies and series.
I guess 9/11 will also fade into the sunset in years to come. The entitlement generation just thinks about getting their government free stuff and
really could care less about the folks that have protected their generation so they could get their free stuff.  |
Entitlement generation I hope you don't plan on using Medicare or Social
Security any time soon.....or even VA benefits...all of those could be considered entitlements...right?!
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Bajajorge
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Bajaboy, Social Security was paid into by the greatest generation and is not an entitlement, but it is just gettng money back from something they put
into, it is just like your 401, Roth, IRA or whatever. You pay into it, you get money out of it. Kabish?
Medicare is also something that seniors pay a premium for, it may be a small monthly premium, some hundred bucks a month, but it ain't completely
government free stuff.
When I talk about the "entitlement generation" I'm talking about the frauds that collect SSI, government subsidized housing, food stamps and whatever
else they think they're entitled to just because they have some fraudulent affliction such as chronic ingrown toenail. OMG, how can someone possibly
work with a sore toe.
As for VA benefits, don't you think putting your life on the line doesn't deserve some payback when it's all done and over with?
[Edited on 12-8-2012 by Bajajorge]
Why do Liberals insist and demand that achievers pay the way for nonachievers who are to lazy to succeed, or are just failures by their own choice?
Criminals prefer unarmed victims, dictators prefer unarmed subjects.
Why do ignorant people continue their blabbering when it only proves to others how stupid they are.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Entitlement generation I hope you don't plan on using Medicare or Social
Security any time soon.....or even VA benefits...all of those could be considered entitlements...right?! |
WTF are you talking about??????
I WORKED and paid into Social Security and Medicare, and when I signed on the line with the US Army (volunteered), the VA benefits were part of the
deal........
Nothing was given to me if I didn't work.......unlike many in this country who chose not to work when they can, and receive "entitlement" benefits
(like free cell phones) that I pay for.
[Edited on 12-8-2012 by bajaguy]
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajorge
Bajaboy, Social Security was paid into by the greatest generation and is not an entitlement, but it is just gettng money back from something they put
into, it is just like your 401, Roth, IRA or whatever. You pay into it, you get money out of it. Kabish?
Medicare is also something that seniors pay a premium for, it may be a small monthly premium, some hundred bucks a month, but it ain't completely
government free stuff.
When I talk about the "entitlement generation" I'm talking about the frauds that collect SSI, government subsidized housing, food stamps and whatever
else they think they're entitled to just because they have some fraudulent affliction such as chronic ingrown toenail. OMG, how can someone possibly
work with a sore toe.
As for VA benefits, don't you think putting your life on the line doesn't deserve some payback when it's all done and over with?
[Edited on 12-8-2012 by Bajajorge] |
My point is that it's easy to say something is an entitlement when it's going to someone else. If you are the person receiving the benefit you are
not likely to call it an entitlement.
So a retired vet making minimum wage can't make his bills....he gets food stamps to get by....if this the person you are referring to? Or how about
the construction worker who picks up jobs and then unemployment between jobs? How about the elderly who need home care assistance. We all pay taxes
to support the country....just suppose it depends on which shoes you walk in.....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Entitlement generation I hope you don't plan on using Medicare or Social
Security any time soon.....or even VA benefits...all of those could be considered entitlements...right?! |
I don't consider SS an entitlement since the government, from my first day in the work-world, put a gun to my head and said I couldn't work unless I
paid into it.
As for my VA benefits....well, you kinda had to be there, but thanks for implying that what I lost was worth nothing to you. Kinda makes me wish I had
it all to do over again because I probably wouldn't.
OOOPS....I should finish reading the thread before I put up a reply that sounds just like some of the others.
Sorry about that.
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[Edited on 12-8-2012 by DENNIS]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
does 10 minutes count as "later?" |
It should, but ...............later.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
My point is that it's easy to say something is an entitlement when it's going to someone else. If you are the person receiving the benefit you are
not likely to call it an entitlement.
So a retired vet making minimum wage can't make his bills....he gets food stamps to get by....if this the person you are referring to? Or how about
the construction worker who picks up jobs and then unemployment between jobs? How about the elderly who need home care assistance. We all pay taxes
to support the country....just suppose it depends on which shoes you walk in..... |
Hey, how about those homeless and out of work panhandling at intersections.......they have enough money for cigarettes and cell phones........why
don't they amble on down to McDonalds or Wal-Mart and apply????
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I wish you two, bajaboy and bajaguy, hadn't called yourselves that.
I can't remember who is who.
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Easy
I'm the sane reasonable one in the white hat 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
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War is Hell.
By the way.....is that a rack of fishing lures behind you?
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Those are battle (signal) flags. And a good place to hide in when the call for working parties is sounded.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
My point is that it's easy to say something is an entitlement when it's going to someone else. If you are the person receiving the benefit you are
not likely to call it an entitlement.
So a retired vet making minimum wage can't make his bills....he gets food stamps to get by....if this the person you are referring to? Or how about
the construction worker who picks up jobs and then unemployment between jobs? How about the elderly who need home care assistance. We all pay taxes
to support the country....just suppose it depends on which shoes you walk in..... |
Hey, how about those homeless and out of work panhandling at intersections.......they have enough money for cigarettes and cell phones........why
don't they amble on down to McDonalds or Wal-Mart and apply???? |
Hey I've been working since I was thirteen or so and have little empathy for those to don't put forth any effort. But to say that the homeless or
panhandlers represent 47% of the population is a stretch.
Now, how about those who willfully move their money out of this country to avoid paying taxes? Are they looked upon with more respect because they
worked the system? How about my buddy (fighter pilot) who owns a house here in San Diego, his kids go to school here, and they use plenty of public
services yet says he lives in Florida so he doesn't have to pay California taxes? Is this the American system? All sounds like hustling the system
to me.
Again my point is it's about perspective. When one says cut entitlements...which ones should be cut?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
what's all this talk about "good" wars??....no such thing when men die......i did the vietnam war; the one nobody wants to talk about...bless the men
and women who died today in pearl harbor....thanks dennis. |
We're talking about good and bad REASONS for a war, not the act of war, itself. At least I was.
Thank you for your service in Vietnam. If we only fought wars for GOOD reasons, you never would have had to go. I still appreciate your service.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajorge
Bajaboy, Social Security was paid into by the greatest generation and is not an entitlement, but it is just gettng money back from something they put
into, it is just like your 401, Roth, IRA or whatever. You pay into it, you get money out of it. Kabish?
Medicare is also something that seniors pay a premium for, it may be a small monthly premium, some hundred bucks a month, but it ain't completely
government free stuff.
When I talk about the "entitlement generation" I'm talking about the frauds that collect SSI, government subsidized housing, food stamps and whatever
else they think they're entitled to just because they have some fraudulent affliction such as chronic ingrown toenail. OMG, how can someone possibly
work with a sore toe.
As for VA benefits, don't you think putting your life on the line doesn't deserve some payback when it's all done and over with?
[Edited on 12-8-2012 by Bajajorge] |
My point is that it's easy to say something is an entitlement when it's going to someone else. If you are the person receiving the benefit you are
not likely to call it an entitlement.
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So here we have some neighbors protesting a few Chinese who feel entitled to come and give birth in this great country of ours because the 14th
amendment to our constitution allows it. When do things stop being entitlements??? I live not far from this house and have seen van loads of
pregnant Asian females being taken to their Dr.s appointments and then to the pharmacy for their meds, all on Medicals dime.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/02/chinese-maternity-hotel...
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| Quote: | | How about my buddy (fighter pilot) who owns a house here in San Diego, his kids go to school here, and they use plenty of public services yet says he
lives in Florida so he doesn't have to pay California taxes? Is this the American system? All sounds like hustling the system to me.
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Who in their right minds want to pay California Income Tax if they don't have to anyway? He probably pays exhorbitant amounts of other California
taxes and fees that make up for the income tax non payments threefold.
Why do Liberals insist and demand that achievers pay the way for nonachievers who are to lazy to succeed, or are just failures by their own choice?
Criminals prefer unarmed victims, dictators prefer unarmed subjects.
Why do ignorant people continue their blabbering when it only proves to others how stupid they are.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajorge
Bajaboy, Social Security was paid into by the greatest generation and is not an entitlement, but it is just gettng money back from something they put
into, it is just like your 401, Roth, IRA or whatever. You pay into it, you get money out of it. Kabish?
Medicare is also something that seniors pay a premium for, it may be a small monthly premium, some hundred bucks a month, but it ain't completely
government free stuff.
When I talk about the "entitlement generation" I'm talking about the frauds that collect SSI, government subsidized housing, food stamps and whatever
else they think they're entitled to just because they have some fraudulent affliction such as chronic ingrown toenail. OMG, how can someone possibly
work with a sore toe.
As for VA benefits, don't you think putting your life on the line doesn't deserve some payback when it's all done and over with?
[Edited on 12-8-2012 by Bajajorge] |
From my perspective its an entitlement---the folks on Medicare are getting far more than they ever paid into it---its healthcare which will take this
country down---not welfare or food stamps.
http://nbtequitiesresearch.com/sites/default/files/uploads/A...
Thanks for posting about Pearl Harbor Day Dennis---for those there and in all wars, thank-you for your sacrifices.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
If we only fought wars for GOOD reasons, |
THe only GOOD reason I can think of for a war is to win it. We come up short on this too.
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"The Punta Banda Bulletin Board has tacitly refused to put up the identical post, opting to smother their board with snooty wine events and finger
food partys. That's what's important in Punta Banda.
The irony is, in an email from the administrator, I was told that if I took out the reference to Sushi, she would post it."
- Why the surprise? It's a racist comment. It may not seem racist to you and many here, but to many .... it is.
That's the duty of an administrator, to filter out what he or she feels may be inappropriate for for the function of the BB.
How could anyone find fault with dropping the "sushi"?
Let the flaming begin.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pointdog
- Why the surprise? It's a racist comment. |
Call it what you will, but of all days that I would be disinterested in the sensitivities of the Japanese, December 7 is at the top of the list.
Besides...... WTF is racist about the mention of Sushi? The gawwwdammm crap belongs on fish hooks.
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Reform TORT LAWS, and a system that allows a hospital to collect eighty thousand dollars for three thousand dollars worth of scorpion anti-venin.
GET THE LAWYERS O-U-T OF HEALTH CARE. MAKE IT A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT. INSIST ON PRISON SENTENCES FOR GROSS MALPRACTICE, NOT MERELY PENALIZING
UNDERWRITERS AND THUS THE PUBLIC.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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