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Interesting... the URL I put into the link is NOT the one currently shown, it should have went to a page with a 1:250,000 map of the area, and double
clicking on that map would lead you through a series of maps, 15 min, 7.5 min, ect
The Forest Service Maps have always great for land ownership, and very poor for everything else.
Unfortunately when the USFS has put out a new map it usually means that many roads have been closed in that Forest.
Hopefully this route (Glass Mountain Traverse) is still open.
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John, as always, thanks for the tips--- So Much to do!
I will spend some time checking out those map sites, including the BLM maps to see if Barry is correct, or just biased. 
BTW Barry, you should have stayed in this area a bit longer this last trip. A couple of nights ago, we had thundershowers that were HUGE; according
to our neighbors, more rain than they have seen around here at one time. Highway 395 had a mud slide and was closed for a while, and boulders
closed 168. The Badwater area of Death Valley received 2 inches of rain in one hour! http://www.inyoregister.com/node/4897 The lightening show was wild and beautiful.
The good thing is we really needed the rain! The bad thing is it started fires on the West side and the smoke is crossing the mountains. And it is
not easy having a 70 lb dog jump in your lap with the thunder.
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..... The Sierras are, of course, beautiful, but the Panamints/Inyos/Whites have much less crowds and have their own stark beauty.
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Stark beauty for sure with afternoon dancing shadows. --- just a quick pix I took yesterday on a side road on the way to Bishop.
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Your right, Diana---------I just heard from my son that the Manzanar Natl. Hisktoric Site (just south of Independence) got flooded from both the
creek to the north and the one to the south, but no really serious damage. Also, "8-mile Ranch" was flooded from a small flash flood out of Sawmill
Canyon just north of Oak Creek (8 miles north of Independence.). I am so bummed that we missed it------I love weather like that, but not the
floods. Lots of remote places in Death Valley that have not reported yet.
I am sure there are many reports of flooding to come.
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Just heard again from my son---------Sawmill Canyon did not flood, it was Division Creek, and it went all over the place including to highway 395 and
points south.
Also big flood covered Highway 395 at Coso Junction in the southern Owens Valley.
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Yep Diane!
Up in the Panamints (Whitney is the white peak waaaay off in the center):
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More great pictures, thank you!
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Nice pictures Mexitron, very nice. So much life in what looks barren.
John, they are closing down more and more roads in the Sierras and in the Whites. It is not just that they are not maintaining them in any way, they
have them blocked off, especially the ones that were not really roads but were simply created by off-roaders driving just anywhere. Hopefully, we
can check on the road and route you mentioned.
Barry, people had to wait 3 1/2 hours for 395 to be cleared. It was a real mess. It didn't just go across the road, but the mud traveled on the
highway before it spilled over to the other side. They also closed 168 for a while. We drive a little ways up there today just to see what going
on and it is open, but they are still working on it so there are delays. Lots of dirt on the road where the water ran.
Also, we wanted to drive a little ways out the road to Saline Valley and the Eureka dunes, and all those roads are closed at the turn off from 168,
and the green sign that lists all the different options are all closed. We imagine there were a lot of washouts.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
Nice pictures Mexitron, very nice. So much life in what looks barren.
John, they are closing down more and more roads in the Sierras and in the Whites. It is not just that they are not maintaining them in any way, they
have them blocked off, especially the ones that were not really roads but were simply created by off-roaders driving just anywhere. Hopefully, we
can check on the road and route you mentioned.
Barry, people had to wait 3 1/2 hours for 395 to be cleared. It was a real mess. It didn't just go across the road, but the mud traveled on the
highway before it spilled over to the other side. They also closed 168 for a while. We drive a little ways up there today just to see what going
on and it is open, but they are still working on it so there are delays. Lots of dirt on the road where the water ran.
Also, we wanted to drive a little ways out the road to Saline Valley and the Eureka dunes, and all those roads are closed at the turn off from 168,
and the green sign that lists all the different options are all closed. We imagine there were a lot of washouts. |
Diana-------this report of yours is disturbing---------many of the roads are County roads, and Inyo County does not have a lot of money for clearing
them. I remember the southern main road into Saline Valley was closed for well over a year because of flash floods, and may still be for all I know.
In my travels about the area in the near past, I am always encouraged that less and less abuse is evident, so people are learning to behave, even the
extreme 4-wheelers, I believe. That is my impression, anyway. I hope I am right. However, it REALLY annoys the Local when roads they have used for
years (most of their lives?) are closed because of a decision by the Feds, and they tend to ignor such closures much of the time. It's complicated,
and a tough sell.
The good news is that the desert will look great for several weeks with all this rain.
Barry
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The road to Saline Valley from Hwy 190 was closed (at least the sign said it was closed) last month when I went by there.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexitron
The road to Saline Valley from Hwy 190 was closed (at least the sign said it was closed) last month when I went by there. |
Ok, thanks-------it's been SEVERAL years now. My son and I went in on that "closed" road a couple of years ago just after the floods, and it was
tricky but doable in my X-terra. We went on into Saline and then over Steel Pass into the Eureka Dunes Valley via Warm Springs (many nudies there,
closed road or no)--------interesting trip. I was thinking that Inyo Country closed that road for liability purposes, as you could get thru with a
proper vehicle, but it was certainly not "safe". I suspect it is even easier now, but the liability still exists until it is brought back up to
"standard". Just my speculation tho.
It may be a different story after this latest series of storms.
On edit-------Oooops, I just looked at a map and I am talking about the road into Saline from 190 (the south approach), not 168 (the north approach).
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[Edited on 7-26-2013 by Barry A.]
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We just hope all the roads going south from 168 are repaired as it is just one of our favorite way to go to several places.
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Today we also drove up the mountain and took a short walk up to the first bridge on the Big Pine Creek. A few months ago with the two years of little
rain and LA taking most of the water, it was calm and the downfalls were not a lot to talk about. After our major thunder showers, things have
changed and it is beautiful. OK, not so good for the fishermen who need some calmer water.
A trickle down the LADWP pipe
The gentle creek rages on
And just the sheer power of the water--- we had to keep Tommy on a leash as the water was just too powerful.
It takes up 15 minutes to ride up the hill and it is 20 degrees cooler! What a great area.
The bad thing is that tonight, we both finally admitted that we are seeing our Tom beginning to fail in some ways at almost 13. We have to keep him on
the leash as the water was so swift, but we let him soak his old joints in the cold water. We so need him to be with us for a few more years at
least!
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Fishing the LA Aqueduct
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Your right, Diana---------I just heard from my son that the Manzanar Natl. Hisktoric Site (just south of Independence) got flooded from both the
creek to the north and the one to the south, Barry |
Many years ago there was great fishing for rainbows and browns in the aqueduct just south of the north creek.
Turn off 395 to the right (east) just north of the orchard at Manzanar, drive past the old WWII runway to the aqueduct and turn right on the dirt
road along the aqueduct. Cross the first stream and park.....using worms, seems like every cast brought in a good sized trout.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Your right, Diana---------I just heard from my son that the Manzanar Natl. Hisktoric Site (just south of Independence) got flooded from both the
creek to the north and the one to the south, Barry |
Many years ago there was great fishing for rainbows and browns in the aqueduct just south of the north creek.
Turn off 395 to the right (east) just north of the orchard at Manzanar, drive past the old WWII runway to the aqueduct and turn right on the dirt
road along the aqueduct. Cross the first stream and park.....using worms, seems like every cast brought in a good sized trout.
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Nawwwwww, that creek is hopeless---------NO fish in there!!!! Nobody should even bother to check that creek-----go on up to Rock Creek and points
north to find ANY fish!!!! There are NO Fish in the Owens Valley-------NONE!!!!
Barry
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Many years ago there was great fishing for rainbows and browns in the aqueduct just south of the north creek.
Turn off 395 to the right (east) just north of the orchard at Manzanar, drive past the old WWII runway to the aqueduct and turn right on the dirt
road along the aqueduct. Cross the first stream and park.....using worms, seems like every cast brought in a good sized trout.
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Nawwwwww, that creek is hopeless---------NO fish in there!!!! Nobody should even bother to check that creek-----go on up to Rock Creek and points
north to find ANY fish!!!! There are NO Fish in the Owens Valley-------NONE!!!!
Barry |
 Be careful of a growing nose!
Right now it sounds like bad news for the Saline Valley road going south from 168. Th Inyo Register says that the road was damaged with a hole 40
feet deep and 50 feet wide. I wish I knew more details as to exactly where, etc.  And who knows, maybe there will be an easy fix?
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Does sound like your getting a little "water" ....... what barry said .. fish the west side ... much better
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wessongroup
Does sound like your getting a little "water" ....... what barry said .. fish the west side ... much better |
The "west side" is even worse than the east side of 395---------NO FISH AT ALL!!!!!! --------------especially within 20 miles either side of
Independence!!!
I certainly hope that both normal roads to Saline Valley are not now "closed", but sounds like they may be. There is always the "Steel Pass" trail
south from Eureka Dunes Area for the truly adventurous?!?!?!?!?! (or maybe the trail west from the 'RaceTrack' for the fool-hardy).
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"west side" ......... of the "Sierra's" ........ your side .......
was meant to keep the "dust" down .... in the area
[Edited on 7-26-2013 by wessongroup]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Your right, Diana---------I just heard from my son that the Manzanar Natl. Hisktoric Site (just south of Independence) got flooded from both the
creek to the north and the one to the south, Barry |
Many years ago there was great fishing for rainbows and browns in the aqueduct just south of the north creek.
Turn off 395 to the right (east) just north of the orchard at Manzanar, drive past the old WWII runway to the aqueduct and turn right on the dirt
road along the aqueduct. Cross the first stream and park.....using worms, seems like every cast brought in a good sized trout.
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Nawwwwww, that creek is hopeless---------NO fish in there!!!! Nobody should even bother to check that creek-----go on up to Rock Creek and points
north to find ANY fish!!!! There are NO Fish in the Owens Valley-------NONE!!!!
Barry |
Yup, you are right......don't fish the creek, fish the aqueduct!
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