C-Urchin
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Propane Cylinder Safety Tip
PROPANE Cylinder Safety Tip – Emergency Recall Order !!
If you use portable propane tanks, especially on your boat, please read this.
As I walked by the office of a local marina I noticed the pile of propane cylinders that had just been filled, waiting to be returned to their owners
and boats. There were some old tanks that were rusty, others out of safety test date, and even two tanks that were simply unsafe for all of us to be
around. These two specific tanks ( LITE CYLINDER CO. ) have been recalled and pulled from service worldwide, but here they were, filled and sitting in
the bright sun. I thought I might mention the following brief safety notice for our community.
There is an immediate FEDERAL EMEGENCY RECALL ORDER of over 55,000 manufactured by the “ LITE CYLINDER CO.” due to their leaking of flammable gas and
sudden rupturing. These cylinders can best be identified because they are not made from the familiar white metal, but are made from plastic and semi
transparent fiberglass. You can actually see the Propane in the tank in its liquid form. Do not fill these and do not use these. This can lead to
explosive and fatal consequences for you and all your neighbors.
Pictures of these dangerous cylinders, and the FEDERAL Emergency Recall Order can be found by “googling” “Hazardous Materials Administration” and
“EMERGENCY RECALL ORDER LITE CYLINDERS” .
Links to the official recall follow this safety tip.
SCUBA Tek is a full service SCUBA and gas Laboratory and we are based here in La Paz, BCS. We inspect, test and certify all types of cylinder and
tanks, including SCUBA and Propane. We are the only hydrostatic test facility in this part of Mexico certifying cylinders and tanks for SCUBA,
oxygen, propane and other applications. We sell, service and repair all types regulators and valves and rebreathers. And we are Marine Mobile, we can
come to your dock or mooring to pick up and deliver.
Wishing everyone a Merry Safe Christmas.
SCUBA Tek, La Paz (612) 152-3435
http://www.phmsa.dot.gov/staticfiles/PHMSA/DownloadableFiles...
http://www.phmsa.dot.gov/portal/site/PHMSA/menuitem.ebdc7a8a...
http://www.phmsa.dot.gov/staticfiles/PHMSA/DownloadableFiles...
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El Jefe
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It is my experience getting portable tanks filled at the propane plant outside of town in Mexico that they will fill just about anything they can
connect a hose to. I've seen all sorts of small odd shaped and really old looking tanks getting filled. Scary.
So, don't expect the propane suppliers to police the recall.
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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Pompano
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El Jefe is right on. If there's a connection to be had, it gets filled. I've witnessed several odd bottles being filled in Baja that would not be
legal in the US. Ever noticed how many burn-scarred guys you see working at the Gas depots in Baja? Example. Pepe Yee in Mulege. Brrr...
Just recently while scouring the Oregon Coast in a RV looking for fishing spots, I've filled my 20lb tanks with propane twice..and both times the
propane attendant checked my tanks specs closely before filling.
[Edited on 12-24-2013 by Pompano]
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MrBillM
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Tank Inspection
When the law first took effect requiring tanks to be periodically inspected, I took one down to the local provider to do the right thing.
After paying him $25.00 for the "Inspection" (+ the fill), I did my own inspections with a set of Metal Stamps.
AND, never had a single one challenged.
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
When the law first took effect requiring tanks to be periodically inspected, I took one down to the local provider to do the right thing.
After paying him $25.00 for the "Inspection" (+ the fill), I did my own inspections with a set of Metal Stamps.
AND, never had a single one challenged. |
That's nothing. I've heard that there is a guy on this board that does his own digital prostrate exams and he passes every time. 
Bob Durrell
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mulegemichael
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really?....digital prostrate exams?...he must have to lay down for those.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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vgabndo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
When the law first took effect requiring tanks to be periodically inspected, I took one down to the local provider to do the right thing.
After paying him $25.00 for the "Inspection" (+ the fill), I did my own inspections with a set of Metal Stamps.
AND, never had a single one challenged. |
Why am I not surprised?
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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MrBillM
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I'm Assuming ...............
That's a negative thought on VGA's part, but WHY ?
It's STUPID (and costly) to go along with STUPID regulations when you have innovative options.
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Just recently while scouring the Oregon Coast in a RV looking for fishing spots, I've filled my 20lb tanks with propane twice..and both times the
propane attendant checked my tanks specs closely before filling. |
That certainly doesn't surprise me for Oregon, one of only two states (don't know which the other one is) that won't let you pump your own gasoline.
But even with "full service," gasoline is often cheaper than in California.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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DavidE
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Whadd-ya mean?
You get well and truly 'serviced' every time you go to a filling station.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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ncampion
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Keep in mind that propane tanks operate at much lower pressures than scuba tanks or other compressed gas cylinders which have working pressures as
high as 3,000 psi. At 80 F the vapor pressure of propane is only 128 psi and even at 110 F it is less than 200 psi. Of course you have to balance
that with the fact that propane is flamable.
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greengoes
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Propane Cylinder Safety Tip:
Don't smoke while connecting it to a device or check for leaks with a butane lighter.
Sorry...couldn't resist.
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Pompano
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Hah...this propane thread reminds of a staged photo we took after installing gas lines for lighting throughout a buddy's house on the hill above
Posada.
Don't try this at home!!
Top right photo of this collage shows us with a fire extinguisher and lit gas lighter...checking for leaks in the gas line. A fun remembrance and
glad I could find this old photo.
It didn't take too much to amuse us in those days. It was enough just to be in Baja.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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weebray
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When was the last time you heard of a propane tank exploding. This sounds like just like a bunch of burro poop fodder for the lawyers. Worry about
something else, chances are your tanks are almost safe, maybe, I think so.
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by weebray
When was the last time you heard of a propane tank exploding. This sounds like just like a bunch of burro poop fodder for the lawyers. Worry about
something else, chances are your tanks are almost safe, maybe, I think so. |
The possibility of a propane tank explosion (BLEVE) is extremely remote....although they do produce a pressured flame when breached in a fire...just
like these did next to my home in Coyote Bay a few years back. I can still remember the WHOOOSH!...makes you pay good attention.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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larryC
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And as if propane isn't bad enough, as seen in the photos, people like to cover their houses with palm fronds.
Off grid, 12-190 watt evergreen solar panels on solar trackers, 2-3648 stacked Outback inverters, 610ah LiFePo4 48v battery bank, FM 60 and MX60
Outback charge controllers, X-240 Outback transformer for 240v from inverters, 6500 watt Kubota diesel generator.
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by larryC
And as if propane isn't bad enough, as seen in the photos, people like to cover their houses with palm fronds. |
You are very correct, larryC. Cheap and easy construction, palm fronds have been the choice for roof construction for as long as there has been
fronds and folks needing shelter. These poor folks in Coyote, Posada, Tripui, several homes & ranches in Mulege province, all suffered huge
losses in fires that quickly spread from roof top to roof top. Clusters of palm frond roofs do not do well when people get careless....or if an
arsonist strikes. Hence most new roofs are made of fireproof material....if the owners can afford it.
Most community developments these days have 'suggestions' about palm frond construction and propane tank operation.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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BajaParrothead
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The Whoosh isn't bad, it's the ping, ping, ping you hear right before the actual BLEVE.
That's when it's time to run. 
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