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[*] posted on 6-15-2014 at 09:58 AM


I started with what I called "Kira fishing". I had a 12 ft. welded boat and a Honda B-100. I've caught a ton of fish trolling a Rebel jointed 4 1/2 inch Fast Track inshore.

Ditto the Gulf wind warning. At 6 mph things can still get a lot worse on the way home even if you think you've reeled-in and run in time. Just between Punta San Antonio and San Nicolas' in our Gregor we got fooled one day and it was serious enough that most of our friends were waiting on the beach for us, 'cause they knew we had our hands full. Where ever we were.

Quartering into a breaking chop blew a lot of spray in the boat, and we bailed our way to the beach. A lesson worth sharing, I think.:coolup:




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[*] posted on 6-15-2014 at 09:01 PM


Wow. Awesome info guys. Keep it coming... And, by the way, I have a 10 foot inflatable dinghy with a fiberglass hull. Probably weighs about 100 pounds. I also have retractable wheels mounted on the transom so walking it into the water for launching/retrieving shouldn't be a problem. I know it might be overkill, but I also recently bought a 15 hp Evinrude that should have me skipping along pretty nicely. I don't plan on going out more than 5 minutes from shore, so hopefully I will not get caught in any winds.

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[*] posted on 6-15-2014 at 11:46 PM


OUCH! One more reason to crimp those barbs for an easier "release"!:spingrin::spingrin::spingrin:
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[*] posted on 6-17-2014 at 12:28 AM


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Wow. Awesome info guys. Keep it coming... And, by the way, I have a 10 foot inflatable dinghy with a fiberglass hull. Probably weighs about 100 pounds. I also have retractable wheels mounted on the transom so walking it into the water for launching/retrieving shouldn't be a problem. I know it might be overkill, but I also recently bought a 15 hp Evinrude that should have me skipping along pretty nicely. I don't plan on going out more than 5 minutes from shore, so hopefully I will not get caught in any winds.

[Edited on 6-16-2014 by briantroy]


The north winds you can usually keep an eye on...the west winds channeled though the canyons can be the really brutal ones. Just have "stock" on hand if you have to ditch it on a beach for a while.
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[*] posted on 6-17-2014 at 02:41 AM


It happens....We spent 3days and nights at San Sebastian when a Norther blew down on us....and beached and swamped a 17 Gregor at Punta Chivato on another occasion. That time there was a crowd waiting for us and they, with the help of a pickup dragged the boat onto the beach....SOC can be a fickle girl..



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[*] posted on 6-17-2014 at 06:22 AM


Sometimes it bothers me how much credit Kira gets for the Baja Catch. I mean, didn't Kelly do 95% of the fishing in the book, originally? I though Kira really just compiled all the info that Kelly got, into book form.
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[*] posted on 6-17-2014 at 06:55 AM


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Sometimes it bothers me how much credit Kira gets for the Baja Catch. I mean, didn't Kelly do 95% of the fishing in the book, originally? I though Kira really just compiled all the info that Kelly got, into book form.


You mean like the book that "Hillary Wrote?"




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[*] posted on 6-17-2014 at 07:23 AM


I dont know what book you refer to. I dont read any contemporary political books.

But to call it Kira style fishing is inaccurate, IMO.
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[*] posted on 6-17-2014 at 09:50 AM


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Sometimes it bothers me how much credit Kira gets for the Baja Catch. I mean, didn't Kelly do 95% of the fishing in the book, originally? I though Kira really just compiled all the info that Kelly got, into book form.


Kelly passed away after the first edition. The book went through at least 3 editions and all were different. So, I think Kira should get some credit.

Having said that Kelly was a far more pleasant read than Kira, to my way of thinking. It wasn't just the information provided that made that book a success. There was quite a bit of humor as well.

Walt Peterson's books were my favorite reads in baja. He was truly an intelligent man with a great sense of humor.

Perhaps the best reason why the Baja Catch was so successful was because of it's single minded purposeful approach on how to go about it. Unlike most books that cover the topic with many techniques, one per chapter, the Baja Catch is one approach with specific instructions for every cove and island on the entire peninsula.

I have a bunch of books on baja fishing and none of them hold a candle to the Baja Catch. Primarily due to the presentation of the information. Having said that, there is nothing magical about a broken back rebel. He starts the book with a 'revelation', where his trip fails until he pulls a rusty rebel from his tackle box. Well, we all know that many lures work effectively and sticking to that rebel for an entire trip is not a smart thing to do.

Ok, enough. I don't know why I'm always defending this book. It is a hallmark in baja literature, though - like Cannon's 'Sea of Cortez'.
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[*] posted on 6-18-2014 at 12:13 AM


They fished together Hook for many years so I am not sure where you got that information. Not having been there how could you come up with a 95% figure? I have corresponded with Gene many times and he is eloquent in his praise for Neil...just seems childish to diss one or the other. With the scorched earth tactics of the gill netters and the commercial fleets the book may be past its prime but not because of what they wrote about or what they saw/caught. The book still holds valuable information (well, maybe too much so for some of us) and basics are still worth reading.

Let's face it: the best approach is still to get out there and do it on your own.
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[*] posted on 6-19-2014 at 12:08 AM


I appreciate all your input. Now I have a starting place, and that is all I really wanted. Thanks!

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[*] posted on 6-19-2014 at 09:32 AM


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If you've never done it before, learning to cast can be rewarding (NOT)



That's great. Was fishing with my grandpa when I was a kid and the same thing happened. He reached up ,pulled it out and kept on fishing even with blood running down his face. I remember thinking how tough he must be. Ha ha
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[*] posted on 6-19-2014 at 02:04 PM


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If you've never done it before, learning to cast can be rewarding (NOT)



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[*] posted on 6-19-2014 at 11:54 PM


Good point Joe, except it's not through the nose to get the maximum "ewwwwwww" response! :o
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