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chuckie
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I live in Loma Azul, a mostly Mexican suburb of Mulege. I think the local folks would give the classic Mexican shrug, and keep on keepin on if the
Gringos left. BUT that's not going to happen. On the water diversion? If the ditches are truly 12 feet deep and run out 30 miles, that is going to
take a lot of the water out of the river basin. Will it be enough? We shall see....
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Cool photos - really puts the drainage (and challenge of controlling the water) into perspective.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by StuckSucks
Cool photos - really puts the drainage (and challenge of controlling the water) into perspective. |
Thanks Willy, photos sparked a smart discussion. Engineering to mitigate flood zones is a tricky challenge and the topography of the area really makes
it more challenging. Does anyone know the range of precip on an ongoing basis? Some numbers that matter are the one time loads on the system like when
the hurricanes come through. That load cannot percolate and constitutes 95% runoff and load to the surface system.....longer storms with large volumes
put another type of load to that same system. Hope the engineers take into account the range and frequency of all types of storms which are allegedly
linked to ongoing climate change.
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micah202
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
.............. On the water diversion? If the ditches are truly 12 feet deep and run out 30 miles, that is going to take a lot of the water out of the
river basin. Will it be enough? We shall see.... |
........where would such ditches 'divert' the water to?...as far as I can see,a channel would need to be cut through climbing,mountainous terrain to
create another exit.
....otherwise,,these should be called 'delays' rather than diversions....they would help with more absorption,,,but in a major event if any of them
were to breach,,,which 12' would be -nothing-,,Mulege could/WOULD see something MUCH worse.
.....Sorry,,I'm not trying to be a doomsdayer here,,and I hope the engineers have something bigger up their sleeves than is visible,,,but god forbid
they create 12' earth dams up there in the face of increasing severity in weather events!
....one goes,,,they ALL could go!
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The area they have excavated is so torn up right now it will really soak up a major amount of water. I'm thinking that this will really help the water
table at least until it is pack down again. Or it could be swept away and really cause havoc down river. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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I have not looked over the topo maps carefully but from riding my bike around up there I have the impression that there is a much lower hill barrier
to the North of the basin. It might be well within reason to divert much of the extreme flows out to the Sea in the next drainage area to the North.
What the residents of that area might feel about that has not been heard yet!
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.....here's a topo-map again..... http://www.floodmap.net/Elevation/ElevationMap/?gi=3995236
...each color change is 50'.....I don't see any possibilities of any real diversion from Mulege.
...I can only think that the diversion's design & effect is to protect the farms up there.
.... any attempt to hold-back water could be catastrophic.
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[Edited on 7-7-2014 by micah202]
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I do not think the plan is to hold back all the water. From what we were told by people in the know, the plan is just to slow it down so that it does
not all hit at once as it normally does. Right now there is a straight shot from the mountains to the sea. The hope is to slow down a lot and divert
a little. We can speculate all we want, but the real test will be the next hurricane. We are not experts as hopefully those they consulted before
doing the work are. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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......^^...''fingers crossed''!?...........how 'bout....''trust in god,,but tie up your camel/horse**''
...and while you're at it....''don't 'build your house on sand''.
....I'd be -very- happy to hear that those 12' dirtwalls won't actually do any holdbacks...it'd be fine if not overwhelmed with volume...point made
,,I'll try to S-up on this now
...**,,depending on eastern/western version of biblical verse!
[Edited on 7-7-2014 by micah202]
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chuckie
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Si, Amigo...we talk lots in the cantina, and then we dig....nada problema....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Si, Amigo...we talk lots in the cantina, and then we dig....nada problema.... |
...probably best th'Cantina uphill by the highway!
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